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Originally posted by Q'alooaith: You've just got to find the losers side to the story, was more to japans attack than a simple act of agression, it was an act of desperation, had it worked as planned things would have gone very diffrently.

I was looking at the loser point of view. If you didn't read ealier I've said that If I were Hitler I would be cursing the japanese for bombing pearl habour.

It was an act of desperation indeed. However, if the US carrier were present at Pearl Habour when the bombing occur OR Japan also uses land based assault ( sending troops ) to add to their suprise air attack things would be different.

Originally posted by mad=dog Well the peculiar thing is that the Axis was not a true alliance. Japan didn't declare war on Russia either remember. They were not obliged to as Germany attacked first.

Since my history books were printed in chinese. It's clearly printed there as "tong meng". Which has the similar meaning an alliance that work side by side. A blatant translation mistake perhaps? hmm...

Anyway, Japan did not declare war with Russia. But did this stopped Russia from " swallowing " a few japanese northern islands towards the end of the war?

Originally posted by Link I think it's safe to say Hitler's warmachine paid little or no attention to what happened with Hirohito in Asia

When Germany finally ' fallen ' ( I blatantly used the word fallen ). A small sub and it's crew bound for japan surrendered to the ally. Inside it was some materials that could have been used to develop the A bomb. Maybe Hitler decides to give a little help to their oriental ally?

Originally posted by Aragorn1 I disagree with the fact that when the US entered germnay was doomed.

First thing first, how many population does US had compared to Germany at that time? Second thing, how are the industries in US compared to Germany? Third thing, Germany produced their war machines in quality instead of quantity compared to US who produces their war machines in quantity. Germany only changes their production from quality to quantity during final few years of war but this has come too late. So, I believe that US had the upper hand of superior numbers.

US war machine produced - Germany's
5 - 2
10 - 4
15 - 6
20 - 8
So in the end who would have won?

Originally posted by Gangrell No, you have to understand that the Japanese in that time period didn't exactly have their heads on straight. They were the first to use the kamikazi pilots

The japanese only resort to using kamikaze pilots in 1944 ( If i still remember it ). So which mean they aren't entirely not having their head straight. The nanjing masscare was a result of hatred from the japanese towards the chinese ( The japanese for centuries had always wanted to show that they are superior to chinese.

Hmm...have I open war on all front? Just like Germany did? LOL!