View Single Post
Old 03-28-2003, 12:57 PM   #12
Rataxes
Symbol of Cyric
 

Join Date: November 17, 2002
Location: Sweden
Age: 39
Posts: 1,359
Quote:
Originally posted by Jim:
Good points Rataxes. A few more:

The thieves base THAC0 stops reducing at 10, so the swashbucklers base THAC0 will be 10 by level 40. (of course, he has the bonus +8 to hit, but then that's classed as (mainhand) THAC0, not base THAC0)
Thanks. Didn't know it actually went down to 10. It's been a while since I soloed my own Swashie and I couldn't find any THAC0 tables on the net that went further than level 20 Anyway, I did include the THAC0 bonus, since it's a permanent, non-removable and innate bonus, it's as close to base THAC0 one can get The comparison would not be fair if I chose not to include this bonus.

Quote:
Ertai, I have to say that the Scarley Ninja-To is a poor choice for a swashbuckler as it messes up the attacks per round. Sure, it grants an extra APR for all intents and purposes, but just try and use Wirlwind (WW) with it equipped, it reveals some interesting results. If you just wield Scarlet in your mainhand, with no weapon in the offhand, you will get 1 (!?!) APR with WW enabled. If you have a standard scimitar/dagger/katana/shortsword etc in your mainhand, but Scarlet in the off hand, you will have 3 APR with WW enabled. If you combine the great powers of Belm with Scarlet, you will have 5 APR with WW enabled. As you can see, this is a problem since WW is a major High Level Ability (HLA) of swashbucklers. Swapping Scarlet for another weapon every time you want to enable WW is too much of a pain IMO. Best sticking to the excellent combination of Kudane and Belm for now
Good point, forgot about that bug. What makes it even more useless is that you cannot even use it until Whirlwind is available to you [img]smile.gif[/img] Are you sure that this bug only applies to the Ninja-to though? My Swashie experienced the same problem with Belm in the off-hand when using Whirlwind, only got up to 3 APR with it equipped. So I threw it away in favour of the (modified) Sanchuudoku and Purifier Quite amazing that it was possible to attain the lowest possible AC while dual-wielding. Still, both Kundane and Belm are great weapons until you get Whirlwind.

[ 03-28-2003, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]
__________________
[img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>
Rataxes is offline   Reply With Quote