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Old 03-06-2005, 07:30 AM   #28
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Originally posted by SpiritWarrior:
Then you ministerpreted my post [img]smile.gif[/img] . The argument I was making was about the "different discussion". The contrast between paying to play versus free games. The subject touched on was the naming policy, my post was addressing your comment but then expanding to address the above arguments also (that in free games character names are lawless and 'unchallenged' but with a downside, no enforced law at all) As for the naming system alone, well I have already put forward the main reason: copywright infringement. Marvel is bringing NCsoft (the makers of City of Heroes) to court beacause of their lax attitude to CWed names and costume-design in their game. If that didn't tell every MMO to further tighten their naming policy I don't know what did.
Hmpf, I still stick to my point. Without getting too political here and bringing the topic to another level I think it's suffice to say that the American judicial system is crooked at every bend in the river. Isn't it an ode to Marvel that people use the names of their comic book characters? Regardless of what Marvel thinks in general and what it thinks it can earn by taking the case to court, NCsoft is hardly to blame for what happened in City of Heroes. After all, it's the players themselves that decide on a name and the clothing of their character.
The world is too much about owning property instead of sharing it. It may be a bit idealistic of me to think this way, but sueing a game for copyright infringement once again demonstrates to me the fact that the world is getting so damn bureaucratic it's hardly possible anymore to make a statement without breaking one of the billion rules out there. If people would just relax, ease up with their rules, and stop imposing their ideas on other people, perhaps this world will work out after all. In my eyes credit is earned, and not taken.

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Originally posted by SpiritWarrior:
I mean this with all due respect. When you tell me you're not that convinced by my arguments but then say that you've never "played a MMORPG ever" something doesn't add up. Really I don't think one can have a valid perspective on the issue without at least being part of the MMO experience once thus rendering you a viable judge of both PTP and free online games. Reviews and opinions mean little if you have no first-hand experience to draw from in order to make a comparison.
I don't see it as an insult, so don't worry [img]smile.gif[/img] Usually I'm quite cool when it comes to discussion online. It's the discussions in real life that sometimes tend to remove the blood under my fingernails.

On your point, though, I admit it's hard for me to really 'judge' the MMORPG genre as a whole, or even a part of it. You're right that I'm not involved in it. But do I need to be a politician to critize politics? Do I need to be a historian to have an opinion about the Middle Ages? I think not. I would even go so far to say that I'm not even judging the MMORPG in my post, I'm merely advocating for one of them.
I believe in sound arguments, decent comparisons and well-balanced conclusions. In my eyes, a difference between two things does not necessary make one thing better than the other. It merely makes them different. What I felt what was happening in this thread was that members were creating a bias towards, in this particular case, Guild Wars. The main focus of my point was merely the presumptious tone that was accompanying all the arguments here.

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Originally posted by SpiritWarrior:
I haven't really judged Guild Wars itself before it's release, but rather all free online games. Yes, it's sad but I played free for years with bad experiences (insisted I'd never pay some company on a monhtly basis to play games) but after moving up I never looked back and can safely say my gaming experience has greatly improved in this environment.
I'm glad you have found out that MMORPG's that ask for a monthly subscription work out better for you. This does not mean, however, that you can generalize all free online games by saying that they are all doomed to be crowded with PK's, hackers, corrupt DM's etcetera. Isn't it true that online gaming is undergoing constant transformation as well as everything else?

[ 03-06-2005, 07:31 AM: Message edited by: Link ]
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