No worries Animal, I know a very small portion of people that talk like that, and when I say that, I mean one person. But now you're making me feel old too. Aye, I remember the early days when I first got me computer, twas over five years ago and lord, how much pestering it took to make my parents get me one. Took so very long, I won't mention how long, but so long just to get a dial up connection running, which we can now do in less than 5 minutes. Where's the challenge?