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Old 03-11-2003, 08:16 PM   #6
Pirengle
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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
Trust me, there is quite an impressive load of stuff to buy (or steal) for you in Ust Natha: The best shield in the game, the 2nd-best Spear, a great Mage Robe for Edwin or Jan, a kickass Amulet....etc. Perhaps you only spoke to one of the Drow Merchants, instead of all 3. Oh well, too late now.

I spoke to all the merchants. I think I bought the shield (Sentinel, was it?), I had no use for the spear since I prefer the staff of Arundel on Jaheira, and passed up the magic resistance amulet.

Just FYI, the Item Upgrade MOD is completely independent of Ribald's "special" items--Ribald grants you access to his secret stash in Chapter 6, whether you've got any MODs installed or not.

Yeah, and all of that was written before the improved item rant. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Actually, it does. Humanoid doesn't necessarily mean Human--Pretty much all laterally bifurcated, bipedal four-limbed creatures within the size range of any of the playable races--Half-Orc through Halfling--counts as humanoid. If Hold Person works on it, Skullcrusher does too.

Aha. And now I'm tempted to give that to Anomen, lower his AC as far as I can, and let Bodhi kidnap him.

Any Drow item that did not disintegrate when you left the Underdark is a bug, and it will *all* disintegrate eventually, or at least it will if you have ToB.

Yup, everything's dust now. I was thinking the ore merchant might want some, but all this adamantine dust is useless now.

How does helping a Good-aligned God out of two big messes, and then taking his Holy Symbol and affixing it to the boss of your shield seem wrong? It's not like you're destroying it or anything, it's still even named after the guy.

I'm going to take his holy symbol, the most precious object of Amauanator still in the material plane, affix it to my shield, and get vampire guts all over it. Wonderful way to honor a deity, no? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Well, about the "Incorporating Quest Items that become useless after the Quest is completed:" Didn't we just cover the Holy Symbol of Amaunator? And then there are items like the Mind Flayer Birthing Brine, the Demon Hearts, etc. Sure, there are still some items left over, such as the paintings from Spellhold, but Weimer can't find uses for everything, you know.[qb]

Tis true. I'm still carting around a lot of unsellable junk, including a plain unenchanted necklace I've had since chapter 2. I wanted more of the treasure hunt aspect. I dunno.

[qb]About the incorporating low-end gems: Why do you think I wrote in the 5 Sunstone gems for the Holy Buckler?


Because every low-level critter in the game drops one? [img]tongue.gif[/img] I mentioned tchazar and moonstone gems because they're rare finds but pretty common gems. The Spook of gems, if you will.

And yes, the upgrade does "Protect Against an Extremely Troublesome Effect," because without this Buckler, Thieves have no protection whatsoever against Level Drain. And since PC Thieves can't work for Bodhi, that means they have to resort to the cheese of Protection From Undead. That (and the reason that enchanted Bucklers were--and still are--SORELY lacking in the game) is why I designed the Buckler in the first place.

You designed the buckler upgrade? That's interesting...and from the way you explained it, necessary. I'm used to giving thieves short bows and short swords. Never occured to me about solo play, and didn't know that thieves can't work for Bodhi. Makes sense, though, if she's fighting against the Shadow Thieves.

And what's wrong with raising the level of enchantment? If a player has fallen in love with a weapon, s/he hates to feel obliged to lay it aside simply because they can get better THAC0 bonuses with something else.

I fell in love with Lilarcor because it was a talking sword, and its upgrade shuts it up. That made me sad. The upgrades for the other weapons aren't very spectacular, component-wise. Depending on where you sell your items back, a fast stop in the Bridge District or Trademeet can get you most of the components.

(I'm going to stop here before this post completely degrades into "oh how I wish it would have been" and spare y'all the grief. [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

[ 03-11-2003, 08:17 PM: Message edited by: Pirengle the BNM ]
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