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SixOfSpades · 03-02-2003, 01:06 AM

Except that the Gauntlets of Ogre Power are quite clearly described as being a UNIQUE item. How many Ogres named Takkok do you see walking around? ("None, because they're all hunted down to have their hands chopped off & made into Gauntlets, haha.") I can see several Golden Girdles floating around, but not Ogre Gauntlets. (I just realized what a stupid acronym they make: GoOP.)

This is where you point out that supposedly-unique items are already duplicated, such as the Rings of Regeneration, Boots of Speed, and Rings of the Ram. But let's examine those Rings: In both cases, the item description is vague enough to suppose that numerous copies were made, as the enchantment was a simple one. Heck, the Ring of Regeneration even posts the recipe right on the box (as it were). The fact that you can get 3 Rings of the Ram from the same guy lends credence to the idea that he knows how to make them. And what about all those Rings of Protection+1 that seem to come standard after your first full year of Harper membership?

So, certain magical items are more common than others--many are absolutely unique. Let us now compare the Gauntlets of Ogre Power with the Boots of Speed. Both were unique in BG1. Both have highly detailed histories that describe either their precise origin and maker, or the user that made them famous. In BG2, one of the items is still unique, but the other one has mysteriously spawned two additional copies, all with the exact same Description of having been worn by the exact same assassin. ("Will the real Boots of Speed please stand up?") Now, I ask you: Would you wish to create this type of incoherency for the Gauntlets of Ogre Power as well?

03-02-2003, 01:06 AM	#7
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	Except that the Gauntlets of Ogre Power are quite clearly described as being a UNIQUE item. How many Ogres named Takkok do you see walking around? ("None, because they're all hunted down to have their hands chopped off & made into Gauntlets, haha.") I can see several Golden Girdles floating around, but not Ogre Gauntlets. (I just realized what a stupid acronym they make: GoOP.) This is where you point out that supposedly-unique items are already duplicated, such as the Rings of Regeneration, Boots of Speed, and Rings of the Ram. But let's examine those Rings: In both cases, the item description is vague enough to suppose that numerous copies were made, as the enchantment was a simple one. Heck, the Ring of Regeneration even posts the recipe right on the box (as it were). The fact that you can get 3 Rings of the Ram from the same guy lends credence to the idea that he knows how to make them. And what about all those Rings of Protection+1 that seem to come standard after your first full year of Harper membership? So, certain magical items are more common than others--many are absolutely unique. Let us now compare the Gauntlets of Ogre Power with the Boots of Speed. Both were unique in BG1. Both have highly detailed histories that describe either their precise origin and maker, or the user that made them famous. In BG2, one of the items is still unique, but the other one has mysteriously spawned two additional copies, all with the exact same Description of having been worn by the exact same assassin. ("Will the real Boots of Speed please stand up?") Now, I ask you: Would you wish to create this type of incoherency for the Gauntlets of Ogre Power as well? __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.