thanks for the warning donut.. i will be extra careful in the future. there are always risks involve and caving gives a higher risk than normal. i will be careful in the future, and i was saying to myself when I got stuck (for a short while) in a pesky hole, I kept wondering myself, why the hell am I doing this? reason? I want to enjoy my life to the fullest the way I know how. [img]smile.gif[/img] .. or course I will not be doing that anytime soon. Rapelling will be my next target.

. and scuba diving