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Thoran · 09-10-2003, 12:55 PM

Those links weren't all statistics, maybe half and half. There were a number of opinion pieces, written by both men and women. The reason I posted the links in the first place was based on a request for rebuttal information from Belle based on her knowledge of articles claiming a wage gap. Since the whole wage gap myth is based on statistical manipulations it's virtually impossible to rebut without looking into the numbers.

I'm not accusing you guys (it appears you have the same misconceptions regarding gender that most americans have) but "dodging the numbers" is a pretty common feminist practice. They'll make an insane statement like "every 12 seconds a woman is assaulted by her intimate partner" but when you point out that the study used for that reference states in the next line that men are assaulted at the same rate by intimate partners they'll come back with "well we're not interested in the numbers or keeping score". The problem with this is it allows them to paint a distorted picture of the issues surrounding gender in the country, and that picture IS having a negative effect on our male children and reinforcing common (and false) beliefs, like the idea that workplace discrimination is a one-sided problem.

You ask why anchors are men if the media isn't sexist... I'd suggest that it's not the sex of the person doing the reporting... it's WHAT'S being reported. A woman runs over her husband with her child in the car and the media is sympathetic, if a man had been driving the car do you think we'd have had a petition going around to set him free? Watch mainstream media and it's painfully obvious that there's an anti-male bias permeating every facet of it. Count the number of times a man is assaulted on prime-time sit-coms... punched, kicked in the groin (for laughs.. ha ha), etc, then count the number of times a male character is portrayed as a buffoon, idiot, abusive, incompetent, etc. Even better yet... try to find a man who is portrayed as a strong masculine role model in an sit-com, tough job there. This bias is pervasive and one sided, women are very rarely portrayed in such a negative light, I'd love to see a reference to the last time a woman was punched in the breast for laughs.

[ 09-10-2003, 12:56 PM: Message edited by: Thoran ]

09-10-2003, 12:55 PM	#27
Thoran Galvatron Join Date: January 10, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Age: 57 Posts: 2,109	Those links weren't all statistics, maybe half and half. There were a number of opinion pieces, written by both men and women. The reason I posted the links in the first place was based on a request for rebuttal information from Belle based on her knowledge of articles claiming a wage gap. Since the whole wage gap myth is based on statistical manipulations it's virtually impossible to rebut without looking into the numbers. I'm not accusing you guys (it appears you have the same misconceptions regarding gender that most americans have) but "dodging the numbers" is a pretty common feminist practice. They'll make an insane statement like "every 12 seconds a woman is assaulted by her intimate partner" but when you point out that the study used for that reference states in the next line that men are assaulted at the same rate by intimate partners they'll come back with "well we're not interested in the numbers or keeping score". The problem with this is it allows them to paint a distorted picture of the issues surrounding gender in the country, and that picture IS having a negative effect on our male children and reinforcing common (and false) beliefs, like the idea that workplace discrimination is a one-sided problem. You ask why anchors are men if the media isn't sexist... I'd suggest that it's not the sex of the person doing the reporting... it's WHAT'S being reported. A woman runs over her husband with her child in the car and the media is sympathetic, if a man had been driving the car do you think we'd have had a petition going around to set him free? Watch mainstream media and it's painfully obvious that there's an anti-male bias permeating every facet of it. Count the number of times a man is assaulted on prime-time sit-coms... punched, kicked in the groin (for laughs.. ha ha), etc, then count the number of times a male character is portrayed as a buffoon, idiot, abusive, incompetent, etc. Even better yet... try to find a man who is portrayed as a strong masculine role model in an sit-com, tough job there. This bias is pervasive and one sided, women are very rarely portrayed in such a negative light, I'd love to see a reference to the last time a woman was punched in the breast for laughs. [ 09-10-2003, 12:56 PM: Message edited by: Thoran ]