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Old 09-07-2003, 10:05 PM   #1
Faceman
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Join Date: February 18, 2002
Location: Vienna
Age: 43
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(to mods: If this in any way violates the TOS - I know I'm touching dangerous ground here - I sincerely apologize. Please PM me and delete the message instantly if so.)
Am I just stupid or is something wrong here?
Please comment the following.

First of all this is not an "I have have a friend" story because I have more friends and two of them (and a guy that used to be my friend) are involved in this

pre-story:
guy A used to be one of my closest friends in high-school until he hit rock bottom smoking marihuana and I couldn't get him out there despite a lot of trying and basically just abandoned him to keep myself away from all this (I'm not proud of it ). When I say rock bottom I mean it because - believe me - you CAN get a "pot-junkie" despite the nice way some movies like to ridicule this drug.
However I (and my other friends) still see him occasionally but not often; mostly at concerts or open-air festivals as we share a common taste of music.

story:
Now me and my three closest friends were at such an open-air and met him there.
He was of course "equipped" and passed around. Me and my best friend stayed out of it because we really don't need that kind of crap.
My other two friends X (who [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] occasionally) and Y (on a less than twice/year basis) however participated.
They (X+Y) were - *surprise at a public event* - caught by the cops along with A's girlfriend.
Now this is not as bad an offense in Austria as it is in the US or some other countries but still illegal. It is however treated quite liberally here and basically what happens in such a case is that you get booked and eventually prosecuted (resulting in a small fine) IF the case is processed in less than two years (which is rare as police force is overworked and has something better to do than to prosecute stupid twenty-somewhats for - basically - being stupid).
So they were taken to a police-container and had to make a written testimony each. Now Y and A's girl testified truly and apologized for that "one-time error". X did so too but pretended to have lost his ID and gave a wrong name, adress and phone number.
After the situation was cleared up the following happened
A's girl and A went back home to [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]
Y has vowed to make "less than twice a year" into NEVER EVER (and he seriously is the guy to keep that)
X was extremely proud of having screwed over the police
We all were kind of pissed at X because while Y stood up for his error he was being a smart-ass and extremly happy about that.

aftermath - actual story:

While processing the files the police - *surprise* - found out that X had used wrong data. They called Y and A's girlfriend to ask about X. Covering for him Y told the police that he did not know him that well but was going to find out about him and call back. He then called X and told him about the situation and that the officer had threatened to summon him to the station which would be especially bad for Y because he's a foreigner and has to fear that his work and stay permit get revoked for hindering justice.
NOW
While Y, my best friend and I try to convince X to turn himself in
X is extremely concerned with how he can keep screwing over the cops to get away again and demands that Y cover for him again using very-witty arguments of why they can't actually touch Y and he shouldn't be nervous if he' lying to the officer...or even better withholding information which is not technically lying anyway.
When we (actually I was the only one who dared to directly) told him that he is completely egomaniac he replied that the whole world is egomaniac and that he's justified by that. This then turned into an argument about society, law and morale. He basically stated that
+ he should not be compelled to follow a law if he doesn't like it
+ it is okay to let another guy take the fall if he falls less deep than you
+ he's not willing to stand up for his mistakes because he thinks they were no mistakes (despite being the cause of all this trouble now).

Boy was I (and that happens rarely). There seemed to be absolutely no reasoning with him.
So I'm not going to ask what to do because this doesn't concern me directly but I'm curious to know if I just missed one of his points. Am I justified to think that he's a complete "posterior-opening" or did I miss something important that miraculouslymakes him correct? [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]
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