[Sir Taliesin]

Originally posted by Night Stalker: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: quote: Originally posted by Eisenschwarz: Since for example, The unit cohesion idea is false.

Prove this or go home. Im am quite sure you never served in the US armed forces so you do not know the problems caused are.
[/QUOTE]I will echo this .... well, not the go home part. But this statement, Eisen, shows your ignorance of understanding unit co-hesion's effects on combat effectiveness. Quite simply, a unit that is divided is ineffective. The forced integration of "coloreds" created very tense units because of the rampant predjuces that abounded. Those units either overcame them under fire (bad place for that) or attrophied. It wasn't until society as a whole accepted integration (for the most part) that 'mixed units' were not a large problem.

The military is not the place for social experimentation - people's lives are at stake. For a unit to be effective, it needs trust and respect. Otherwise, people die.

This also goes for personal conflicts as well. If every one in the unit, for whatever reason, can't get along, the unit is in jepordy. [/QUOTE]First off, let me say that I agree with the Supreme courts ruling. What happens in the privacy of ones on bedroom with another consenting adult is none of mine or anyone elses business. That said, I also agree with TL, Majik and Night Stalker! Personally, I don't even think it's a good idea for young men and women to serve in the same unit together. My personal experience with that comes from when my unit was activated for Desert Storm. We had three young women come up pregnent prior to our deploying. All the fathers came from our unit and none were married (Well one was and he got a divorce from his wife so he could marry the girl he got pregnent). When we got to Saudi Arabia, we had two fights over the women in our unit within the first few days of being in-country.

They moved all the females over to the Battilion Headquarters company before the unit moved to the front. While at the front our guards almost shot three guys from one of the line companies after they were caught trying to sneak through our perimeter to visit the women. There were at least two more affairs that went on the entire time we were over there and one of those marriages broke up afterwards. There is no place for sex or sexual tension in a military unit.

And to echo one of TL's excellent points, I personally wouldn't want to shower or room with a man or woman that might find me sexually attractive during a wartime situation. He or she's mind might not be on their job when the chips are down.

[ 07-01-2003, 01:26 PM: Message edited by: Sir Taliesin ]