[Stratos]

Originally posted by Grendal: [QB] ok I must REALLY need that course Stratos...Point 1 you made....I WATCHED the lady say that, Im not makin it up.[QB]

Well I've never seen or heard about it, but if you have then who am I to argue

Point 3 you made....Sorry just dont agree with that at all. A better lifestyle WONT happen untill AFTER the political problems have been worked out NOT before.

I too was refering to the political problems and not the materialistic ones. By driving around freely I mean have access to most places like you and I have in our respective countries and not risking being pulled over by soldiers just because you look suspicios. Or give children the chance to go to school without risking being dragged into a conflict on the streets between police/soldiers and stone-throwers. All these things are a part of the political problem.

Point 4 you made....I never said that their physiology was different just they way they THINK. Example 1: The Taliban THOUGHT it was ok to treat thier women like dogs, Where as I dont THINK its proper (and niether did the rest of the world)

And neither do I, but we can't escape the fact that many Westerners treat the wives like dogs as well and they live in liberal democratic countries. The problem with women abuse is a man vs. woman problem and not entirely a cultural or religiuos problem. I'm sure you could find men in Afghanistan that treated their wive with the respect they deserve but there are also a-holes, just like in our part of the world. And it's also a matter of how you choose to view things; a woman who is forced to stay at home almost 24/7, can only leave if she wears a Bhurka and only in company with a male relative won't find that very oppressing if she thinks that that's the way things should be. The example with the Talibans is also a extreme example due to the rigid religios rules imposed on everyone around them. The Palestinians don't have most of these rules and some of the "richer" terrorists have the chance to move to another country if they don't like the laws in the one they're in.

Example 2: Obviously you and I THINK differantly.

I haven't ruled out that possibility either and how fun would the world be of everyone thought the same.

Example 3: While in Mexico I saw a a truck with about 13 teens to pre-teens riding in the back. I (as well as the RCMP) dont THINK that is very safe, but they THOUGHT it was just fine. If you cant see that differant people, cultures and races THINK differantly, well maybe thats the whole problem.

First of all, enlighten me: What is RCMP? Second of all, does them being Mexicans automaticly make them think that having 13 teens in the back of a truck is safe. Perhaps they're poor, have a big family and only have one that one truck. And perhaps ( since I've never been there) info about traffic security haven't reached the broad public in Mexico. And surely you can't make such a assumption on this individual case. And third and last, people think differently: Yes. Cultures think differently: OK, I agree to some extent but not to the extent that some makes terrorists and some don't. That answer is to easy and I also strongly believe that any of us in our part of the world could do what they do if we were in the same situation: That we have a different culture than theirs isn't that important. Then how would you explain people like Timothy McVeigh, he grew up in our part of the world and with our culture. Races thinks differently: Now, this is completely new to me. Do you have a link to a reliable source on this matter?