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Old 06-25-2003, 07:15 AM   #22
Faceman
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Join Date: February 18, 2002
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Originally posted by Grendal:
Consider just for a second who we are talking about..a people who have had thier religions for longer than christianity has existed. Countries with history that goes back thousands of years. There is nothing that you can say that they want to listen to.
The only religion in mid-east that's older than christianity is Judaism. Islam was founded in the 7th century. Every country's history goes back thousands of years. Some even with ancient high cultures. Where's your daily Japanese, Chinese, Aztec or Indian suicide bomber. Japan has not had a very peaceful history either still it's rather (not very) stable.

Bin Laden may be rich but he's a lunatic. These things happen. I also sincerely doubt that he would go on a suicide mission himself.

All religions are peaceful in general but also provide with rules for the necessity of war. Christianity is an exception here as it does not talk about war in the original texts. Crusades were only legitimated later by the popes in charge. Hinduistic Vedes have rather violent chapters too but you don't see Indian people blow themselves up in London.

Fundamentalistic terrorism has fundamentalists as a basis. To become a fundamentalist you have to be either crazy or desperate. Now there is a certain amount of crazy people everywhere but in these country there's also a whole lot of desperate people.
Terrorism like the Oklahoma bombing is also done by desperate people who have not been properly educated as to "killing is wrong - the cause does not matter for that".

Giving a suicide bomber a Volvo won't change his mind I agree with that. But giving everybody a Volvo will reduce the number of people who want to become a suicide bomber.

Your misconception is that for every Palestinian other than for normal people his foremost goal is to conquer Jerusalem. Wrong! The goal of a Palestinian like with every other person on this world is to give his life some sense. The problem is that the only realistically achievable option that is offered to him is the conquest of Jerusalem. So he makes it his foremost goal.
Arabs don't hate Israelis from their birth. They are told "Jews are bad" and the more bad things they experience (no matter from whom) the more of it they attribute to "the Jews" and nurture their hate.
If they had less to complain about (if only the weather was nicer) they would not have a cause for their hatred.
So I say again: Build up their economy/social structure! Only people who want to commit suicide can be suicide bombers.
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