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Originally posted by IronDragon:
quote: The last I learned from the discovery channel, the maturing process in adolescents is affected by food consumption in general. Large quantities of high energy food stimulate growth and maturing. Girls seem particularly susceptible to this. Body fat levels seem to have a strong link to growth spurts during puberty.
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Three observations on this bit of garbage:
1) From the Vegetarian Times: Children eating an excessively organic diet enter puberty significantly later than those children eating a diet high in beef and cow’s milk treated with growth hormones.
2) Children living in countries that ban hormone laden milk and animal products also do not enter puberty at early ages despite the high quality and variety of their diet.
3) If this had any barring on the matter then obese children would be entering puberty markedly sooner than non-obese children. And in case your wondering obesity tends to retard the maturation process slightly. [/QUOTE]Finally! Someone knowledgable! Before I get into this, let me say that I'm not putting down vegan diet practices. When properly implemented, they are extremely healthy and are conducive to maintaining proper body fat and living a long life free from coronary disease. I'm trying to put across the point that I don't believe the GM hype and prove that it's wrong.
IronDragon, your reply seems to come mostly from statistics analysis in the Vegitarian Times. I personally don't like statistics much. They beg to be twisted and interpreted in various ways.
Here's an example.
1. Organic diets tend to be significantly lower in both animal protein and fat, so that data could be said to support both points. Animal proteins have been a vital part of the human diet since long before written history. Our bodies are designed to get protein primarily from animal sources, like it or not.
2. I honestly don't know. This statement is kind of general and hard to argue. What countries? Are their diets sufficiently like ours?
3. This could also be interpreted to support both points. Obese children should be consuming more milk and beef products if their obesity in not a disease or related to an abnormal metabolism, right? Therefore their increased exposure to the horomone contaminated food should make the symptoms worse, right? Obesity just isn't statistically viable. Other health problems tend to accompany it, skewing results.
I tend to not like statistical data as "proof" of anything. Statistics are good pointers if analyzed objectively. Unfortunately, they rarely are. I base my opinions more on the fact that if drug developers can't get horomones to survive the digestive process in high concentrations, why would they survive in the much lower concentrations found in beef and milk products? Orally delivered horomones have to be chemically altered to survive enzymes. In this state, they are not truly horomones until they contact the enzyme and are altered by it. You didn't address this at all in your response.
My question to you would be this. How do the horomones found in the beef and milk products survive the digestive process?