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Old 06-20-2003, 10:16 AM   #45
Moiraine
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Join Date: March 1, 2001
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Originally posted by MagiK:
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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
THE FIRST JUDICIALLY-APPROVED SECRET JAILING. I am not cynical or sarcastic. I am seriously worried. Jailing people without levelling charges??? They can do it to you, too.


Ok [img]smile.gif[/img] I was just goofing wit my first post, so here is a serious treatment...on one hand the libertarian in me says hmmm it could happen to me....on the other hand the I hate terrorists and people who associate with groups with links to terrorists says screw them. Seriously, if you are stupid enough to associate yourself in some way with one of these organizations..this is just a darwinian result.

[/QUOTE]Forgive me for digging out an early post, as I just came in here. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Consider for one minute the following scenario, OK ? Suppose I am your neighbour, and for some reason I have a grudge against you. Suppose I call the police and tell them I've lately seen suspicious people coming to your house. Suppose then the police comes and takes you away and detains you for a certain amount of time - until you can PROVE you have done nothing wrong, if you can prove it ... When you at last come back home, you think your troubles are over but you'll soon hear people whispering "Well, surely he has done something, no smoke without a fire eh ?" ...

You would think this scenario far fetched, wouldn't you ? Well, something similar happened in Frence a few months ago : a guy was arrested because supposedly he had been seen setting a bomb in an airport - turned out that it was his family-in-law who had payed a retired military man to put lots of weapons in his car so the police would believe he was a terrorist. He spent a full month in jail. His name is Abdelrazak Besseghir - he is sort of "ethnically incorrect" too, which didn't help ...

EDIT : About your "one last thought" : may I respectfully remind you that there are no such things as several human races on earth nowadays ? Last time two human races cohabited on earth was 35 000 years ago, when the last Neanderthal human died - and we are not even sure he was a different specie, only the fact that there is no trace of his genetical material in us tends to suggest there could not be Sapiens-Neanderthal children, which is what defines the word "specie". [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 06-20-2003, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: Moiraine ]
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