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in the end game scene, are those hooded guys are the famous council of six that rule the empire which most of this game staged? (Atklathas or something like that? sorry don't remember the spelling for that one at the moment). i could be wrong, but in the end i counted it again and again and there were 7 of them. I wonder if these were the same people. Or maybe some more powerful organization that has 'to be dealt with' in baldur gate III that we haven't met?

ps. where is this shadow dragon? or the fifth one might i say? i know of the silver dragon near drow's city. deceitful red dragon with the stupid 10000 golds orge hunting guest. the black dragon in hell. and the 'gold' dragon in the elven city. where is this fifth one? can it be kill? I finished my game twice, once w/ different companions at different times. the second times was mostly soloing to see if it's possible. I haven't tried being a mage and see if i could learn those 9th level spells yet but i think i might wanna risk it with the spoilers. by the way where are those strongholds for mage and other classes? the 90+ sword can't be brought into the game through Spoiler, so far i have no luck w/ killing Aran or the other guy to get this sword, more help would be really appreciated.

<font color="white">DSlaytern] Just some spoiler tags to add.</font>

[ 10-06-2002, 03:37 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

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I think the concensus is that they are supposed to represent the other bhall-spawns.

The black dragon is in the 'Temple Ruins' - the area opens up after doing part of a quest in 'Umar Hills'

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The people in the end movie are generally considered to be the five major enemies in TOB. For this theory to hold, we have to consider that the movie was made before Bioware decided to change some things in TOB.

The fifth dragon is in the Umar Hills quest. </font>

i'm sorry but i'm new to this game and was wondering what's TOB?

<font color="lightblue">Throne of Bhaal. The official expansion for BG2. </font>

(If u dont know how to get the quest)Go to the Goverment park in the Government District then a child will spoke to u in there.

Well...can u see the big metal ball in slums district? That was the stronghold of mage. If ye wanna enter u must take the quest in the Goverment building first, then go to Umar hill and seek out Valxxx(forget the spelling [img]tongue.gif[/img] ), invite him to your group. you can then use his blood to unlock the door.

Another persistent theorie was, that they were (high) Priests of Bhaal.
Obviously they dont want you surviving the whole time, they need your essence for daddy.

Nononono, it is all so clear. ;) They are the Baldur's Gate 2 game designers and they are determined to make sure you die in ToB! Hence the ToB insignia on the table. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

well, you just cant beat that .. after all, trying to prove the wrongness of something usually requires logic. And since you just made up a theorie which sounds completely logical, it's going to be quite hard to prove its nonsense, since you allready used the very same thing i wanted to use, to show you were wrong. Hmm, does that make any sense ?