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Kakero 05-15-2006 01:28 AM

Which one is correct? I got a formal letter to type. And in english. grrrr..

1. Had decided

or

2. Had decide

Example;

1. I had decided to support you.

or

2. I had decide to support you.

or should I use have decided or have decide?

Ivelliis 05-15-2006 02:19 AM

I have decided to support you.

Assuming it is present tense.

If you supported them in the past you would use

I had decided to support you.

Kakero 05-15-2006 02:21 AM

Great thanks! :D

Aragorn1 05-15-2006 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ivelliis:
I have decided to support you.

Assuming it is present tense.


Isn't that past tense?

Present tense would be I decide, or I am deciding, would it not?

Had decided would then be pluperfect. Its beentoo long since I've thought of a language in grammar terms.

ALthough, just to make myself clear, the two options he gave are the two correct conjugations, if you have a conjugated part of 'to have' followed by a verb the verb will usually be in the past participle (Or I can't think of exceptions a5t the moment, I'm sure there will be some.)

It depends on what you want to say:

e.g. I have decided to support you in your camaign.

I had decided to support you, but your recent conduct makes this impossible.

[ 05-15-2006, 05:47 AM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

Bozos of Bones 05-15-2006 05:50 AM

There's a difference, had decided ends then, have decided spans until now. Can't remember what the names are for those two.

Bungleau 05-15-2006 08:47 AM

The two tenses are present perfect and past perfect.

I have decided to support you ==> present perfect

I had decided to support you before you gave me the money ==> past perfect

I decided to support you ==> past

I will have decided to support you by the time the election takes place ==> future perfect

God bless Mr Hall and 7th grade English :D Still sticks with me all these years ;)

Iron Greasel 05-15-2006 09:51 AM

How about "I will have had decided it soon"? Future past perfect?

What if you are talking about something that would have happened in your subjective past, might have happened in the subjective future of the one you are talking of it, but will/did not happen because of your actions?

Aragorn1 05-15-2006 09:54 AM

Just grammatically incorrect I'm afraid...

Oh and from the above post it seems slightly different terms may be used in the US, what I referred to as the pluperfect Bungleau called the past prefect. Oh, and 'past' may be should be termed 'perfect,' as there are more past tenses than the perfect tense e.g. the past historic, impefect etc?

[ 05-15-2006, 10:12 AM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

Kakero 05-15-2006 09:54 AM

You all talk until I blur already. @_@

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Ivelliis 05-15-2006 11:56 AM

I meant past regarding the had bit of the sentence.


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