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Aragorn1 07-22-2005 06:31 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

Also, a mosque in East London surrounded by armed police and evacuated after a bomb scare.

Zink Whistlefly 07-22-2005 06:34 AM

Yeah just read that article. 5 times point blank range!? Surely it would have been better to detain the guy :confused:

I can't imagine what it must have been like for the guy sat watching it all in front of him. Plain clothed men too so he wouldn't have realised they were police, certainly not at first.

shamrock_uk 07-22-2005 06:49 AM

Ouch, that's gotta hurt.

Given the huge amount of paperwork and soul-searching that always follows the police using firearms it's probably reasonable to assume he was about to set off a bomb or had run from something similar.

Lanesra 07-22-2005 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zink Whistlefly:
Yeah just read that article. 5 times point blank range!? Surely it would have been better to detain the guy :confused:

I can't imagine what it must have been like for the guy sat watching it all in front of him. Plain clothed men too so he wouldn't have realised they were police, certainly not at first.

Yes - "excuse me sir, before you press that button I must ask you to accompany me to the Police Station"

Five times - that'll teach him to buy a ticket! :D

Detain him? Not with my tax dollars!

Zink Whistlefly 07-22-2005 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanesra:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Zink Whistlefly:
Yeah just read that article. 5 times point blank range!? Surely it would have been better to detain the guy :confused:

I can't imagine what it must have been like for the guy sat watching it all in front of him. Plain clothed men too so he wouldn't have realised they were police, certainly not at first.

Yes - "excuse me sir, before you press that button I must ask you to accompany me to the Police Station"

Five times - that'll teach him to buy a ticket! :D

Detain him? Not with my tax dollars!
</font>[/QUOTE]Well we don't know enough about what happened yet, but chances are if he was in posession of a detonator he would have triggered it instead of waiting for several police officers to pile on top of him first before he was shot.

More information can be gained from people who are alive by the way ;) .

Aragorn1 07-22-2005 08:29 AM

How about we polish up a spike, rebuild the gate houses and put his head on London Bridge.

We could even go through the whole beheading/this is the head of traitor thing.

[ 07-22-2005, 08:30 AM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

RoSs_bg2_rox 07-22-2005 10:50 AM

I just listened to a report of a man who was right there when the shooting happened. I think this man deserved all he got. While information is precious lives are more so.

Zink Whistlefly 07-22-2005 11:48 AM

I'm not so sure that he got what he deserved at this point. Reports are coming in that this guy was unarmed and "crying with fear" before he was gunned down. I still feel that restraining him, then unloading 5 bullets into him is a little excessive without knowing more information about this first!

Sure, he's Asian, was running away from armed police in a subway so close to the terrorist attacks and was wearing a coat, does that make him a terrorist? I think not. There could be lots of viable reasons why he was running from them - sure it was a very stupid thing to do, but we'd best hope that this was not an innocent man and the police made the right call.

If the police have shot an killed an innocent asian guy, we can expect serious reprisals.

shamrock_uk 07-22-2005 01:25 PM

Well according to the news, this man was placed under surveillance following the attacks yesterday.

He was then challenged by armed police on the station platform but chose to ran. The police say he was directly related to the attacks yesterday, although not actually one of the bombers.

An independent investigation will of course be launched into the shooting, but I'm not losing any sleep.

Felix The Assassin 07-22-2005 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zink Whistlefly:
I'm not so sure that he got what he deserved at this point. Reports are coming in that this guy was unarmed and "crying with fear" before he was gunned down. I still feel that restraining him, then unloading 5 bullets into him is a little excessive without knowing more information about this first!

Sure, he's Asian, was running away from armed police in a subway so close to the terrorist attacks and was wearing a coat, does that make him a terrorist? I think not. There could be lots of viable reasons why he was running from them - sure it was a very stupid thing to do, but we'd best hope that this was not an innocent man and the police made the right call.

If the police have shot an killed an innocent asian guy, we can expect serious reprisals.

Since we are in the GD forum, and not the CE forum I'll try to be nice.
Go read the lives of the London Bombers from the last attack, in the CE forum. Then rethink what you claim about your post above. And remember, the hatred for the crown is deeper then that of the red, white and blue!

On a side note, if you would have been in charge back in the day, we would not celebrate our war of independence, it would have been handed to us on a silver and gold platter!


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