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Aragorn1 07-15-2005 08:12 AM

From an MS web-site:

Quote:

Important Note: Your browser has not been detected as Internet Explorer.
You may view the content within this site using any client browser and you can download games to play them off-line, however; the on-line games will only work with the Internet Explorer 5.01 or later browser on Windows 98 or later operating systems.
Well?
I tried to play a game through MSN zone (AOK, ah the nostalgia), using firefox, and i got this! This has got to anti-competitive.

[ 07-15-2005, 08:13 AM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

robertthebard 07-15-2005 08:25 AM

Probably so, but they do own the site, and like any business, they do have a right to refuse service to anyone. I'm not going to say I agree with it, because I really don't, but it is within their rights, as a business, to put certain criteria on who is using their content.

Larry_OHF 07-15-2005 11:41 AM

<font color=skyblue>In the past, I have posted a message here from my Federal Credit Union that says that one must have Explorer or Netscape. They certainly do not care about browser competition since they are only in the business of making money in their own way, but to ask them why, I am sure they would say that it is a security issue and that they only trust those two as safe for use. </font>

philip 07-15-2005 12:54 PM

Try opening links on msn.com in tabs for fun with firefox.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 07-15-2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aragorn1:
From an MS web-site:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Important Note: Your browser has not been detected as Internet Explorer.
You may view the content within this site using any client browser and you can download games to play them off-line, however; the on-line games will only work with the Internet Explorer 5.01 or later browser on Windows 98 or later operating systems.

Well?
I tried to play a game through MSN zone (AOK, ah the nostalgia), using firefox, and i got this! This has got to anti-competitive.
</font>[/QUOTE]Oh, my God! Microsoft doesn't like competition?!

Everything I ever believed is a lie...

[ 07-15-2005, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: Illumina Drathiran'ar ]

Iron Greasel 07-15-2005 04:04 PM

Why, oh WHY can't they obey the HTML standard!? It's WWW! You're supposed to make web pages in HTML! Not javascript! I understand that some places actually need it, but if I observed those links in the msn page and Aragorns troubles correctly those idiots are using javascript to disrupt normal operation of a webpage. They're Evil! EVIL, I tell you!

Bungleau 07-15-2005 04:06 PM

There's a legit reason for this, folks... the web pages may contain things that aren't supported by older browser versions. And many companies don't want to deal with setting up different copies of the page, depending on browser version. I ran into that a while ago... part of the audience for the web site I was developing was using Netscape 4, which didn't support DHTML. IE5 did, and I wanted to use DHTML. And I couldn't force the users to switch...

Firefox does have an extension that you can load which is a user agent switcher. Basically, it lets you tell your Firefox browser to announce itself as something else (IE6, for example). That gets around many of these kinds of messages... unless what you're running just won't run in your browser. I've got a couple of sites where it just won't work, but it does wonders for most of the others.


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