Ahhh Crapsticles :(
Yeah, it has been announced

I think all file sharing programs should be outlawed.

Whew, don't scare me like that - It's just suprnova.org that closed. ;)

Although suprnova.org was a really good site. :(

<span style="color: lightblue">They will never kill Bittorrent. It's just not possible the way it works. Much like any open source software, the right - and, with bittorrent, the necessity - of users forking means that it is truly an impossibility for all activity of it to completely stop.

<span style="color: lightblue">Why? Sure, they are used for pirating commerical software and movies etc., and this should be stopped.
But they are also used for legitimate reasons: Bittorrent especially is a favourite way to distribute Open Source Software, among alot of other free to download things, because it eases stress on the webservers, while (unlike other networks) giving the possibility to ensure that the users get a trustworthy copy, and that they get the most recent version.

[ 12-21-2004, 02:33 AM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

Did you know that both world of warcraft, and anarchy online use bittorent for their official download?

Did you also know that there is apparently a bittorent service with fileplanet, and according to my friend, it's great.

I've seen tons of gaming sites that use bittprent to distribute their files, since they don't have to pay for the bandwith.

well cool then in sweden they cant stop it...the laws dont apply here...hehe

I believe in file-sharing...especially music. There is too much money in the music industry anyways...and most of it ends up with people who arent really making the music...

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Where are we supposed to search for our torrents now? Suprnova had the largest database, did it not? :(

Yeah, I download music too, but if I like it or if it is one of my favourite bands, I will buy it.

[ 12-21-2004, 08:29 AM: Message edited by: Jaradu ]

I'm one of those people who will download a game first to see if I like it, then actually buy it if I like it (call it a three-day trial period). I mean, with the high prices of games of games nowadays, I don't want to waste my money on something I don't like. The demo sometimes works alright, but for example, in Rome: Total War, the demo was crap, the game was not. But I don't want this to turn into a filesharing discussion.

Suprnova going down is/was unfortunate, but there are plenty of other sites out there with torrents (BTW, just the site, not Bittorrent itself, was shut down [img]tongue.gif[/img] ). They may be a bit harder to find, but they're there all the same.

Here's a link to the 'official' FAQ: http://www.silentdragz.net/suprfaq/

[ 12-21-2004, 08:49 AM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

The endless spiral...if people download stuff because of the expensive street prices, the prices will only go up even more so that the publishers/vendors can make up their losses by charging the legitimate buyers even more. Then people will buy less and download even more etc.

These lawsuits will never stop filesharing, for reasons above, and because the only way to stop filesharing completely would be to shut down the internet or at least to outlaw all file-transferring software - but that of course cannot be done because of the commercial uses of it.

What may slow down file sharing in the future is the introduction of monthly download limits by ISPs.

Also, I think people should strike a better balance between downloading and buying. Yes download, to test, trial, then buy if you like it; if you don't like it, you're not going to use it anyway. Then maybe the prices will get more reasonable. But already, the download music services have kicked off and they offer much better value for money - they won't reach their full potential though, unless they get rid of the stupid digital rights management which allows people only to play it on certain comps/players.

For illegal stuff I can't say I feel bad. Sure it was a good thing for open source and other legal downloads. But keeping lists on which video file and which mp3 is where you're bound to get a lawsuit and loose it. That's why kazaa couldn't be banned or charged. They just provided a program and didn't care what users used it for. It's their own mistake.

I always buy my music. I have an internet radio which I listen to and where I get ideas for other bands and at times I just search sites and ask friends if they found something cool and if I like it I buy it. Luckily I like CDs I can get CDs that aren't as expensive. I mostly mailorder them for like $9-$12 great price for something I listen and like a lot.