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shadowspecter 03-08-2004 07:57 PM

I was reading a question that I had to answer...this question really made me start to make me ponder...hmmm.....does anyone have hope for mankind? Enlighten me here people....because I find no hope in mankind....

johnny 03-08-2004 08:01 PM

Without hope all is lost.

So yes of course, there's always hope.

Kakero 03-08-2004 09:15 PM

I see there's no hope for mankind but I see a future for it. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

I can better explain in chinese;
you qian tu ke shi mei you xi wang. [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img]

Nerull 03-08-2004 09:24 PM

Hope? Other than the changes in technology, and the adaptations that have occurred as a result of it, people are pretty much exactly the way they were millenia ago. We still butcher each other over religion and skin color. We still let greed drive us. That's why I laugh at the Star Trek premise: some aliens show up and help us into space, and all of a sudden there is no hunger, no money, etc. Bull$#!@. It's a part of our nature. And with the technology getting better and better (and thus, better and better at killing each other off), it's only a matter of time.

Ronn_Bman 03-08-2004 09:28 PM

Without Faith, there is NO Hope...

SomeGuy 03-08-2004 11:19 PM

Actually, I do believe there is hope for this world. But, as Ronn_Bman said, without Faith there is no hope. We've really destroyed the world. We've corrupted so much, twisting it and changing it into something so different. The music, the entertainment, the way we worship, the way we act, the way treat each other. And none of us can take the blame. We try to blame material items, saying "Oh yea, money is what screwed things up, money is the root of all evil" Oh yea? It's not. We just made it that. We've really messed things up, but things can change.

LordKathen 03-09-2004 06:05 AM

<font color=lime>May I input on the issue of faith?
I have none. Unless I can say faith in humanity, and the hope that we all will get it together and stop the insanity. </font>

Jorath Calar 03-09-2004 06:23 AM

I think Ronn has it completely wrong, Without hope there would be no faith... the essence of most peoples faith is hope for mankind and that we can be saved... but you can have hope without following a believe... like my man Kathen... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Hope this post isn't in violation of the Religious ban....

The Hierophant 03-10-2004 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadowspecter:
I was reading a question that I had to answer...this question really made me start to make me ponder...hmmm.....does anyone have hope for mankind? Enlighten me here people....because I find no hope in mankind....
just out of curiosity, how old are you?

Illumina Drathiran'ar 03-10-2004 01:23 PM

Of course there's hope. I have hope. I have to... I've seen some horrible things, and I'm still relatively young, but logic must follow that hope exists. If it didn't, I would have stopped getting out of bed in the morning years ago.
Faith sometimes links itself with hope, but not always. My personal beliefs have little to do with hope, though that's just me. I know plenty of atheists who have hope... And a few that don't. I know religious people with hope, and some without. Therefore, my view is that hope is something you find within yourself.


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