ok theres a band in the sewers(just after you kill that guy and get the cloak of the sewers in the temple district)and this party kick my ass ive tried the wand of cloud kill and almost every other wand i can find and i dont want toput the difficulty down cuz thats like cheating,so should i just come back when my men are upgraded or is it just hard whatever level you are?btw ive only been playing a couple of days so have fairly low levels (around 7-8 except that bounty hunter who is 11)k.thanx for ne help.
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<font color=aa0000><marquee>p.s.no smart comments about how easy you found it</marquee></font color=aa0000>

You should propably return when you're of a little higher level, This guys are toughies (I'm assuming you talk about the folks who ask you to give them 1000 gold)

Yeh they want ma money, well ill carry on ma adventure to Umar hills...or is that full of evil toughies as well?

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You should be able to handle Umar Hills. I know the group in the sewers are extremely tough, it takes some luck to beat them, thats for sure.

Yeh they are hard, ill go to umar and kick ass there.<marquee> [img]graemlins/shooter04.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/badass.gif[/img] </marquee>

J:J

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The Umar and Windspear quests can actually be quite difficult.

In my opinion the first quests you should do in Chapter 2 are:
Shadowthief quest
De'arnise quest
Korgan quest (After you did the Shadowthief quest, to save some time)

After doing these three you should have enough money to get to the next chapter or alternatively enough XP to do the rest of the quests (recommended, as that's where the fun is)

I suggest Tradesmeet. It is relatively easy, gives a lot of Xp and a great ego booster. Not to mention that you will have access to a lot of good equipment after you complete the two main quests related to Tradesmeet.

YES! You are correct, How could I forget Trademeet?
Deffinetly an easy yet rewarding quest.

But I prefer to start with Shadow-thief guild first anyway,

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I just love Edwin so much, The longer I have him in my party that happier I become.

If you do try to tackle that group down in the sewers, try webbing the area first...also, if you have it, have one of your magic users cast "Greater Malison" to lower their saving throws. If you want to "cheese" it, after webbing or entangling the area (or both), cast Cloudkill just while standing outside of their sight range, or cast a couple of fireballs in on them. Those that survive, whack them with ranged weapons. Be careful of the dwarf, though (Tarnor the Hatchetman?) because he has a throwing axe that is pretty unkind. ;)

Ice storm works great on that group as well, but I wouldn't recommend it except as last resort, because if one of the opponents gets magically "frozen", it is the same as petrification when they shatter in that they lose all their "goodies"...and this group has got some great goodies.

If you need to find these spells: Cloudkill and Greater Malison can be purchased from Galoomp the Bookkeeper (just north of Den of Seven Vales in Waukeen's Promenade), and Ice Storm can be purchased from the Shadow Thief Guild (the fence in the front lobby of the guild has a couple of those spells).

Cheers,
-Sazerac

if you play a spell out of their sight (so that they attack you) you can take them out one by one if you walk in a passage when you see one

summon creatures (and haste) are cool too