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antryg 11-05-2002 07:24 PM

Texas is unique as a state in that it was neither one of the original colonies that joined together to form the US nor was it aquired via purchase or war. Texas was an independent country which voluntarily joined the US. In fact its borders were established via treaty with the United States and by Supreme Court action. In a previous thread I had brought out that Texas has the right to split to become as many as 6 states. This quickly degenrated into a Texas is different thread. Is it time for Texas to go its own way again? Should Texas secede from the United States of America?

Lord Lothar 11-05-2002 07:30 PM

How could it? Surely the US wouldn't allow their 2nd largest state to separate? I'm sure that Texans have no qualms with being part of the US.

antryg 11-05-2002 07:35 PM

Actually there are quite a few that want to leave. They are still not a sizeable number. Search Republic of Texas. One site is a "virtual" Republic of Texas, it is only semi-serious, really more tongue in cheek. There is also a site for an extremist group that already feels and acts like they aren't part of the USA (nuts with guns who refuse to pay taxes and play GI Joe in barbed wire compounds).

Donut 11-05-2002 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by antryg:
Texas is unique as a state in that it was neither one of the original colonies that joined together to form the US nor was it aquired via purchase or war.
Is this so? Were Idaho or Illinois acquired via purchase or war. (BTW I know there were many more. Hawaii?)

Mellagar 11-05-2002 07:40 PM

My question is, would anyone miss Texas? Heh. Besides, let's say by some unknown miracle Texas broke from the US, what then? They could build casinos!!

Willard 11-05-2002 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by antryg:
Texas is unique as a state in that it was neither one of the original colonies that joined together to form the US nor was it aquired via purchase or war. Texas was an independent country which voluntarily joined the US.
What about Vermont, eh? Nobody eber mentions Vermont! Nobody! Nobody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Whoops, I got a little out of control there. But anyways, why should Texas secede from the US? It's not like they would do any better as a new country. They'd have to make up all of the new laws, etc., and not to mention all of the illegal aliens who would seize the chance to come into Texas. And what about the people living in Texas? What are they supposed to do, pick up their house and drag it to California? Huh? Huh?

[ 11-05-2002, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: Willard ]

Sir Goulum 11-05-2002 07:43 PM

Texas leaving the US...wouldn't Bush be happy? :D

EDIT- This situation is much the same as Quebec when it wanted to leave Canada!

[ 11-05-2002, 07:44 PM: Message edited by: Sir Goulum ]

antryg 11-05-2002 07:44 PM

You are correct Donut. Some areas were just part of American expansion into areas that no other country claimed. {Since the Indian tribes living there already possessed no valid claim.} I believe that at least part of Idaho was acquired in the Louisiana purchase. The Spanish American War also played a part.

antryg 11-05-2002 07:52 PM

Willard, nobody mentions Vermont for a reason :D Also I'm sure the only immigration we would want to control is keeping out "damn yankees". Those Northerners who were smart enough to move to Texas would be given naturalized status.
Sir G then WE could keep Bush out. He is about as Texan as I am a Canadian.
Have you ever wondered how his family is a native of Mass.,Tex., and Florida?
Their state pride stretches to where they can get elected.

Mellagar 11-05-2002 07:55 PM

Damn yankee...now there's something I haven't heard in...two months. Heh.


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