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Zuvio 06-03-2002 03:48 AM

To all of you: what level were you when you went to chapter 3. How many of the quests did you do, like any dragons or so? And can you get araqn linvails quests in chapter 2?

Sir Exxon 06-03-2002 07:38 AM

<font color="gold">I usually do all the big quests in chapter 2, like Firkragg, Trademeet etc, and some sub-quests, and then return in chapter 6 to do the rest of the sub-quests. But sometimes, I also just get enough money, and then goes to chapter 3. [img]smile.gif[/img]

And no, you cant get his quests in chapter 2. You can work for another Shadow Thief, though, named Renal Bloodscalp. ;) </font>

Zuvio 06-03-2002 02:17 PM

levelling up is just a bummer in chapter 2, I'm gonna ditch all my npc's and do the quests myself.

Sazerac 06-03-2002 02:59 PM

It all depends. If I'm planning to use Imoen as my main mage, I'll do the bare minimum of quests in Chapter 2 and then move on to Chapters 3, 4, and 5. All of the Chapter 2 quests can be done in Chapter 6 as well.

If I'm a mage, or I've got Nalia or Edwin and I just want Imoen as backup, I tend to do more of the quests.

What I would recommend as bare minimum would be:

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1. Your Stronghold (whatever character you are)
2. The Circus (if you want to pick up Aerie)
3. Copper Coronet & Slavers (if you want to pick up Anomen and/or Nalia, also gets you Lilacor the +3 sword)
4. The Harper's Guild/finding Montaron (fairly easy early-on, and really sets off the Jaheira romance if you're doing that one)
5. De'Arnise (especially if you're fighter-class; it's one of the easiest and first strongholds to get, and to get the Flail of Ages)
6. Mae'Var's guild (if you want to pick up Edwin, and if you aren't a thief, but want the +3 Sword of backstabbing
7. Trademeet (optional unless you're a Druid and going for the stronghold, but extremely easy quests here, and loads of great equipment, also if you want to pick up Cernd).

Any others you wish to do will be based on your character, how much money you have, and how much you want completed by Chapter 2. I'd recommend trying to finish your romance quests and other NPC quests as well, except for Jaheria, who's quests go on, and on, and on, and on...

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Here's my example. My last character I played was a male human Berserker dualled to Thief (Chaotic Good). After the starter dungeon, I picked up Aerie in the Circus Quest, Anomen and Nalia in the Copper Coronet, dropped Jaheira (don't really use her), and then completed Copper Coronet and Slavers Guild. I then found the poisoned guy and completed the Xzar/Montaron/Harpers quest. Went off to De'Arnise, got my stronghold and the Flail of Ages and the Elven Bow for Minsc. Back to Athkatla, then got Aerie and Anomen's quests almost simultaneously (talk to Anomen's dad, talk to Uncle Quayle). Anomen's was the easiest, so did that one first, then started the Haer'Dalis quest. Freed Haer'Dalis but did not return the gem just yet. Went on and did Mae'var's guild since it is so easy and got the +3 short sword of backstabbing (best sword for Nalia to wield in the game). Decided to skip Trademeet for the time being and instead did the Umar Hills quest (Minsc's) to kill the Shadow Dragon and get the Shadow Armor for my fighter/thief (best armor for a thief in the game, IMO). Also picked up Valygar.

Got back to Athkatla, used Valy to pop open the Planar Sphere, then dumped him. [img]smile.gif[/img] However, I didn't do the Planar Sphere, just opened the door. Did the Guarded Compound to get Celestial Fury and let my character dual-wield it with the Blade of Roses which I had purchased from the Copper Coronet. About that same time, Nalia got spirited away by her rakish bf so I did the few quests to get her back. Anomen also had his trial and increased in glory :rolleyes: At that time, Sir Ryan Trawl approached us and wanted us to solve the "Fallen Paladins", so since I wanted their help in Chapter 6, I went on and did that (a breeze by this point). I also started the "Unseeing Eye" quest (did not complete yet), and then did the Sir Sarles quest to get the Illithium for the Mace of Disruption.

By this time (4 weeks game time), I had completed all the NPC quests that I was with, had enough equipment for everyone, and had plenty of gold; so much in fact I was able to pay Gaelen Bayle to start Chapter 3, and have plenty left over to buy Nalia the Robe of Vecna and to get Aerie the Sling of Everard +5 (two must-haves, IMO.)

That's when I started Chapter 3. So, the Chap 2 quests I left open were:

Trademeet
Unseeing Eye
Windspear Hills (Firkraag)
Planar Sphere
Planar Prison (Haer'Dalis' follow up)
Twisted Rune
Kangaxx

which were plenty for Imoen to play "catch-up" on and get the experience.

(Also, since I had ToB installed, there was Watcher's Keep as well, but that's another story altogether. ;) )

Cheers,
-Sazerac

Zuvio 06-04-2002 04:08 AM

Nice quest walkthru Sazerac! IMO imoen isnt wirth the wait. I AM however completely bummed out about the loss of Yosh. Now I need a new thief. Im gonna try jan or so.

Sazerac 06-04-2002 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Zuvio:
Nice quest walkthru Sazerac! IMO imoen isnt wirth the wait. I AM however completely bummed out about the loss of Yosh. Now I need a new thief. Im gonna try jan or so.
Thanks, Zuvio! If you need a thief, Jan is the best one in the game that's there for the long run. Not to mention that his stories are HILARIOUS.

Cheers,
-Sazerac

Zuvio 06-04-2002 12:44 PM

Yeah, i never did favor the gnome race. Theyre just not so .... heroic looking know what I mean. But they are very usefull indeed. And in the Shannara series they were mostly depicted as baddies so I grew up disliking them. My god, im actually prejudiced about something [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sazerac 06-04-2002 03:14 PM

LOL, I never thought about that! Gnomes as evil...hm, yes, maybe some of the deep dwellers. Well, Jan's no beaut, but he's a scream to have with the party, and as a mage (illusionist) and a thief he can be invaluable, if you're main character's not a thief or theif multi/dual class to begin with. One thing: he will start bellyaching if you're rep gets too high. He *is* Chaotic Neutral, after all. ;)

-Saz

Xero279 06-04-2002 04:27 PM

I noticed Sazerac (I think it was him) who said he did the fallen pallidan quest to get their help in chapter 6. how many groups can you get to help you?
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Im in ch. 6 now and i got Drizzt to help us against bodhi, but how do you get the palladins to help? are there a lot more you can get to help? is bodhi that hard? i took her out within a few sec the first time i fought her..is that normal? How do you trigger the fallen palladins quest? Where are my pants?

Tiresius 06-04-2002 10:53 PM

You have a couple options for help w/ bhodi. Drizzt is good fighter. You can get a paladin (i think he is at the Temple area) or go talk to the shadow thieves (either aran or renal...i forget) for a thief that will help fight and disarm the traps (i used him cuz i was goin solo and therefore did not have a thief to disarm them) There might be more but i dont know of them.


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