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DeSoya 07-15-2002 01:36 AM

So I woke up this morning and before going out and demolishing the rest of my deck (carpenter ants and rot) I read this article.
http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/insig...262164,00.html

I was appalled (I mean even more so than I would have been had this not been the case) to find that this sort of imprisonment extends to citizens as well as illegal imigrants. What gives? Don't we, here in the US, have a constitution or something? I go to protests everyonce in a while. I don't want to be tossed into jail for owning a gas mask or holding a sign. Now, I can be.

DeSoya

Moni 07-15-2002 03:23 AM

They've been wanting to do this since his father was in office...it was all just a matter of time.
If this country has any sense and its not too late already, we should make sure we get Jr. out of office the next election.

Jorath Calar 07-15-2002 04:13 AM

Now were is Oswald when we need him?

K T Ong 07-15-2002 04:21 AM

You folks might like to look at this, too.

Ar-Cunin 07-15-2002 05:05 AM

America - land of the free ;)

johnny 07-15-2002 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ar-Cunin:
America - land of the free ;)
Yeah, and soon to be: land of the not so very free. :D

skywalker 07-15-2002 06:13 AM

Yep, since 9/11 we are expected to give up a lot for our safety. The questions are:

1)What freedoms would you be willing to part with to be safe?
2)Do you think it would make a difference? If some group wants to inflict harm, won't they be able to do so no matter how much you try to protect yourself?
3)Will we get the freedoms we lost when (if) the "War" is over?
4)Will we get our freedoms back when the administration changes?

Tough questions that we all need to think about and we all desperately need answered.

Mark

johnny 07-15-2002 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker:
Yep, since 9/11 we are expected to give up a lot for our safety. The questions are:

1)What freedoms would you be willing to part with to be safe?
2)Do you think it would make a difference? If some group wants to inflict harm, won't they be able to do so no matter how much you try to protect yourself?
3)Will we get the freedoms we lost when (if) the "War" is over?
4)Will we get our freedoms back when the administration changes?

Tough questions that we all need to think about and we all desperately need answered.

Mark

One thing dude, there will always be terrorists, take out Bin Laden, and 5 new ones will take his place. So therefore the war on terrorisme is a never ending war, and also one that can never be won !

K T Ong 07-15-2002 08:39 AM

There's an answer to terrorism and war, but it's (widely regarded today as) a dirty four-letter word...

Starting with the letter 'L'...

johnny 07-15-2002 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by K T Ong:
There's an answer to terrorism and war, but it's (widely regarded today as) a dirty four-letter word...

Starting with the letter 'L'...

Love ??????


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