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Rokenn 02-05-2003 12:31 PM

'Troubling' evidence at U.N.

Powell layed out a pretty convincing package. Though I still question the administration true motives in all this, I feel they have made the case that Iraq is not complying with UN resolution 1441. Anyone else feel the ghost of Adlai Stevenson in the room while Powell was speaking?

Sir Taliesin 02-05-2003 12:46 PM

<font color=orange>I thought he hit a homerun, but I don't set on the Security council and also some would say I'm baised. But I thought he laid a good argument out neither the less.

(edit)I just heard France's position and they seemed to have moved somewhat from what we heard earlier in the week. They want to wait and see what the Iraqis have to say on the 14th. They are saying that Iraq must to come clean to Blix. At least that's the way I understood it.</font>

[ 02-05-2003, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Sir Taliesin ]

Ar-Cunin 02-05-2003 02:30 PM

I decided to delete my thread as I don't think we need two thread on one subject.


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So - how many of you saw the speech

Personally I don't think it changes anything - since there wasn't any 'smoking gun'. The contries that support a war will continue to do so - as will the the ones that favour continued UN action.

At best there was circumstantial evidence - and the case proving the Al-Queda - Iraq link was very weak. The most damning 'evidence' was the intercepted telephone-conversations.

the new JR Jansen 02-05-2003 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ar-Cunin:
I decided to delete my thread as I don't think we need two thread on one subject.


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So - how many of you saw the speech

Personally I don't think it changes anything - since there wasn't any 'smoking gun'. The contries that support a war will continue to do so - as will the the ones that favour continued UN action.

At best there was circumstantial evidence - and the case proving the Al-Queda - Iraq link was very weak. The most damning 'evidence' was the intercepted telephone-conversations.

Yep, and even that's debatable. Not so much that they were made but, and take it from someone living in a country with 3 official languages and where also English is thaught at schools, translations sometimes have a tendency to favor the one translating it. I'll only truly believe it when i hear someone confirming those translations, someone independent, who speaks the language. I know, from experience, that a certain word in one language can sometimes have a totaly different meaning in another. Meaning that that word can not be translated and have the same overall meaning.

I'm not saying that these tapes are false or badly translated and i'm not taking an opinion on which side i favor, i'm just stating a point.

Timber Loftis 02-06-2003 10:47 AM

What Powell found:

http://users.ranchoweb.com/images/ti...g2520fishy.jpg

johnny 02-06-2003 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
What Powell found:

http://users.ranchoweb.com/images/ti...g2520fishy.jpg

Something smells fishy here. :D


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