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Dundee Slaytern 05-26-2002 04:46 AM

If a person decides on a path of celibacy, even though he has never actually had a girlfriend before, what would be your opinion of him?

caleb 05-26-2002 04:55 AM

He should try it first he might like it ;)

Sir Heinrich Godfrie IV 05-26-2002 05:26 AM

Sorry but I can't seem to vote. There's some type of problem with the Java Scripting and I get an error message.

For me it would depend on whether or not the individual has or is putting an effort towards finding a partner. If someone tries to make themself look all high and mighty by saying that they are celibate, yet deep down they know that if they had a chance they would have sex, then i would have no respect for them.

PERSONALLY, I think it is wrong for someone (male or female) to refrain from having a family, especially when invoking God's name in doing so. I was raised in a Latter-Day Saint household (yes aka Mormon) and was taught that it is "God's will" for his children (us) to MARRY and have children of our own. And NO that doesn't mean multiple wives as well, that practice was eradicated before the 1900's, and anyone still practicing that has absolutely nothing to do with the LDS Church today.

Again this is my opinion and I want to add that I respect other people's right to hold there own on this subject.

Earthdog 05-26-2002 05:35 AM

In the days of HIV and other STD's (and pregnant 11 year olds) hes better off not going down that road until he/she is ready. If EVER!!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Epona 05-26-2002 05:51 AM

Well I voted that he is free to choose his own path of course, but at the same time he is MAD! MAD I tell ya!

And Earthdog - there are ways of preventing transmission of disease and pregnancy ;) readily available in all pharmacies and grocery stores (trying to keep it suitable for the youngsters on the forum here, doing my best folks, but it had to be said).

K T Ong 05-26-2002 07:09 AM

Instead of having opinions about such a person, it would perhaps be a better thing to find out why he thinks and does what he thinks and does. Perhaps he might consider parenting too much of a responsibility for him (and it is a huge responsibility indeed, involving no less than bringing up a human being). Or alternatively he might find it too much of a curtailment on his personal freedom to be tied down with a gal, and in time a family. Or perhaps he might (also?) consider the contemporary world to be in such a sorry state that it would be almost criminal to let another soul enter this world in view of what it (this world) is likely to have in store for him/her.

And I have to confess that all the above actually do apply to me to some extent. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 05-26-2002, 07:10 AM: Message edited by: K T Ong ]

Melusine 05-26-2002 07:13 AM

I would say that's his own choice.
It depends on whether he intends to remain celibate for all his life or until marriage. In the latter case: fine, if that's his choice. In the former: I would wonder if there's some traumatic experience that brought this belief about, and think that maybe he should try and come to terms with whatever events happened to him. In any case, who am I to say how other people should live their lives?

caleb 05-26-2002 07:14 AM

"Perhaps he might consider parenting too much of a responsibility for him (and it is a huge responsibility indeed, involving no less than bringing up a human being). Or alternatively he might find it too much of a curtailment on his personal freedom to be tied down with a gal, and in time a family."

Some flaws in that. There are 2 forms of birth control for men and like 15? for women. As for personal freedom you dont have to be tied down to someone you have sex with....you dont even have to know their name ;)

Earthdog 05-26-2002 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Epona:
Well I voted that he is free to choose his own path of course, but at the same time he is MAD! MAD I tell ya!

And Earthdog - there are ways of preventing transmission of disease and pregnancy ;) readily available in all pharmacies and grocery stores (trying to keep it suitable for the youngsters on the forum here, doing my best folks, but it had to be said).

Well they are only so effective as far as birth control goes. As for preventing STDs, the male must keep certain parts from contact or they are no use. Any MD will tell ya that. Sorry, Im trying to keep it clean here but it needs to be said. Young uns thinking that "protection" is fool proof are serioulsy being mislead.

ABSTAIN its the best form of protection.

Melusine 05-26-2002 11:24 AM

Well, you are right that even going 'double dutch' :rolleyes: i.e. pill and condom isn't one hundred percent safe, but I would say the risk is neglicible. I mean, if you go by risks like those, you can't drive a car, life in a house, you can't do anything for fear of risks.
Oh, and I don't know what you're trying to allude to in your post, but most sexual activities can be performed with protection against STDs.


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