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Arnabas 05-03-2002 04:21 PM

After seeing Talthyr's post re: translation, I have my own query. A while back I had one of those "Family Name Origin" writeups done for my name. Amoung the various bits of info, it gave my ancient family motto, but did not translate it. I am assuming this is Welsh, and have never been able to get it translated. Can someone tell me what it means in English? Thanks!!
Also: proper pronounciation would be cool.
It is: "Cywir in Gwlad"

Epona 05-03-2002 04:45 PM

It means 'Faithful to the Country' or something like that - patriotic I guess!

Epona 05-03-2002 04:52 PM

And I believe pronunciation would be (though the bit of Welsh I remember is more than a little rusty):

Cu-wir in Goo-lad

[ 05-03-2002, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: Epona ]

Arnabas 05-03-2002 05:03 PM

Excellent. Thanks!

Epona 05-03-2002 05:05 PM

You're welcome!
Welsh pronunciation is one of the most difficult I've ever come-across, although Serbo-Croat is no picnic.

Arnabas 05-03-2002 05:08 PM

I want to learn Welsh. Not that I'd get much use out of it, mind you... I want to learn both Welsh and Irish due to my family history.

Epona 05-03-2002 05:10 PM

Good for you! It's difficult because the pronunciation and grammar are totally different to the Latin/Germanic languages we're more used to, but it should be fun giving it a go!

Arnabas 05-03-2002 05:13 PM

Well, I've already studied Russian and Japanese, so I am up for the challenge. I love languages.

khazadman 05-03-2002 06:18 PM

aren't the welsh the people with reeeaaaallllyyyy long place names? :D

Talthyr Malkaviel 05-03-2002 06:32 PM

There's one fact I've always remembered about the Welsh language, whenever there's a double l it is pronounced similar to the end sound in 'ich.'
What other languages have you done BTW??
I've always wanted to learn Russian, but so far I can speak German, though not quite as well as I speak French, and recently I picked up a little book and I am learning some Swedish.... it's not that hard when you look at some of the words and pronounciations.
I want to learn quite a lot more languages in fact, because I'm really interested in languages and their history and development.


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