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Cerek the Barbaric 04-25-2002 11:03 AM

<font color="white">This thread is a continuation of the discussions started in the original <font color="yellow">Evolution/Creation</font> thread.

Not surprisingly, the discussion soon focused on religious beliefs (or lack thereof). So this new thread is designed to incorporate ANY topic that is related to religious beliefs of ALL varieties.

ALL views are welcome....just be nice and show respect for one another.</font>

AzureWolf 04-25-2002 11:19 AM

To me the whole debate seems rather useless, both are fundamentally founded upon faith. Either faith in your religion or faith in your science. Both espouse "facts" to throw at each other to try and turn the tables in the debate but when it comes down to it you have a belief in one or the other. Until either one can show unarguable proof that they are right it will continue. At this stage creationists put their faith into their personal experiences and the tenents of their religion, evolutionists put their faith into scientific discoveries and the enormous cosmos of the unknown yet to be discovered. So who is to say whos right? Either way you all have faith in what you believe is right.

johnny 04-25-2002 11:22 AM

i got three words for ya: religion is dangerous

Qbe 04-25-2002 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
i got three words for ya: religion is dangerous
As dangerous as lack of religion?

MagiK 04-25-2002 01:21 PM

My Apologies to Larry for missing his post about not posting...was experienceing delays in the loading of the thread.

MagiK 04-25-2002 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
i got three words for ya: religion is dangerous
So is water if used incorrectly....so your point is?

MagiK 04-25-2002 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzureWolf:
To me the whole debate seems rather useless, both are fundamentally founded upon faith. Either faith in your religion or faith in your science. Both espouse "facts" to throw at each other to try and turn the tables in the debate but when it comes down to it you have a belief in one or the other. Until either one can show unarguable proof that they are right it will continue. At this stage creationists put their faith into their personal experiences and the tenents of their religion, evolutionists put their faith into scientific discoveries and the enormous cosmos of the unknown yet to be discovered. So who is to say whos right? Either way you all have faith in what you believe is right.
There is no "faith" in science, there are only theory, observation, and demonstrable facts/proofs.

Dramnek_Ulk 04-25-2002 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric:

You don't have to accept - or even agree - with my beliefs. I respect your choice of beliefs, all I ask is that you show the same respect towards mine.

I wholeheartedly concur.</font>[/QUOTE]Do you really?
You disrespected my views by taking my post and twisting It deliberately to fit in with your own beliefs and views on what I had written, without even trying to deal with the issues it raised.

AzureWolf 04-25-2002 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AzureWolf:
To me the whole debate seems rather useless, both are fundamentally founded upon faith. Either faith in your religion or faith in your science. Both espouse "facts" to throw at each other to try and turn the tables in the debate but when it comes down to it you have a belief in one or the other. Until either one can show unarguable proof that they are right it will continue. At this stage creationists put their faith into their personal experiences and the tenents of their religion, evolutionists put their faith into scientific discoveries and the enormous cosmos of the unknown yet to be discovered. So who is to say whos right? Either way you all have faith in what you believe is right.

There is no "faith" in science, there are only theory, observation, and demonstrable facts/proofs.</font>[/QUOTE]When someone belives science to be the true answer to their question but they have no proof is this not faith that science is right?

Knobhead_the_Pommie 04-25-2002 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dramnek_Ulk:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Yorick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric:

You don't have to accept - or even agree - with my beliefs. I respect your choice of beliefs, all I ask is that you show the same respect towards mine.

I wholeheartedly concur.</font>[/QUOTE]Do you really?
You disrespected my views by taking my post and twisting It deliberately to fit in with your own beliefs and views on what I had written, without even trying to deal with the issues it raised.
</font>[/QUOTE]I did it to show you how it felt. Wasn't a nice thing was it? Just remember you have made insulting generalisations repeatedly.


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