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Donut 06-12-2001 10:04 AM

Serious question. We can agree that the 1st world are the westernised democracies and I think we all know what we mean when we talk about a 3rd world country but I've never been clear about the 2nd world.

Any thoughts?

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caleb 06-12-2001 10:06 AM

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Rikard 06-12-2001 10:06 AM

2nd world Was The communist world
So Sovjet Union Eastern Europe
China

1st and 2nd world are no longer used
But the 3rd world is

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Rikard 06-12-2001 10:07 AM

Why do you bring this subject up anyway?
has this anything to do with my post about the "First World" having no capital punishment except USA?

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Memnoch 06-12-2001 10:11 AM

I always thought that the 2nd world were the old Warsaw Pact countries.

I don't think these groupings are used anymore - You have FDC (Fully Developed Countries), LDC (Least Developed Countries) and something else in between.

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Charean 06-12-2001 10:11 AM

Good Point... never figured that out, myself!! LOL

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Rikard 06-12-2001 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch:
I always thought that the 2nd world were the old Warsaw Pact countries.


I don't think these groupings are used anymore - You have FDC (Fully Developed Countries), LDC (Least Developed Countries) and something else in between.



Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't All Communist country's except China part of the Warsaw pact?

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Donut 06-12-2001 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rikard:
Why do you bring this subject up anyway?
has this anything to do with my post about the "First World" having no capital punishment except USA?



Very likely Rikard, I wondered if Japan was a First World country. When I get a question like this in my head it won't go away without an answer.

BTW - you've contradicted yourself, in your previous post you said First World isn't used any more but you've just reminded me that you used it yesterday http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Rikard 06-12-2001 10:20 AM

I used it between "these things"
so it's not used but ehm erm used http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/confused.gif

To be honest i haven't thought about that whole first world second world thing untill the Whole McVeigh/Capital Punishment debate

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Memnoch 06-12-2001 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rikard:

Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't All Communist country's except China part of the Warsaw pact?


Virtually all of Eastern Europe was the Warsaw Pact. The Warsaw Pact was more of a military organization than a political one - it was basically the Soviet satellite states that acted as a buffer between the USSR and NATO. Other Communist nations that were not part of the Warsaw Pact were Cuba and some of the Marxist regimes in Africa.

Thinking about it now, I'm not sure if the 2nd World included China or not...I have a feeling that they (the economists that came up with this stuff) were thinking more of state-based industrial communist economies at the time - China would have been an agricultural-based economy back in the late 40s and early 50s.

I could be wrong though, it's been 10 years since I studied this. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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