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Visceris,

You spouted off in another thread. I'm answering here.

[and such in my games and Darkpiper tried to take that away from us fans. Sure she might have valid reasons (which I do not agree with), but her methods were less than desirable.]

Contacting an artist friend and letting her know her art might be used without her knowledge? Letting her know what a portion of those people think about artists in general?

[Personally I do not think her motivation was not for the welfare of the artists (not at first anyway), but more because of a petty jealousy between herself and Lady Nightshade then it branched out.]

What??

I never even heard of LN before January. I don't run a website -- not even a personal one -- no reason for jealousy there. LN's fans and friends? Sorry, try again. Not interested in that kind of friendship.

Do not presume to speak of my motives. I said, and Teri said, repeatedly in that chat, in other emails and elsewhere what our motives were. They will not change to suit your or anyone else's wishes.

[I have been to that one chat discussion at TeamBG voicechat and you should have seen Darkpiper's true colors.]

EXCUSE ME??

Shall I talk about Ken and Liz's then? Refusing to believe ANYTHING I or Teri Gardner said because it wasn't what they wanted to hear -- BULLSHIT about how we were "working" for Rimshot, and supposedly involved in a lawsuit against them? How about Ken trying to convince Teri that I was lying to her?

Or how about Ken offering to let me and Teri moderate TeamBG, and completely dropped the topic when we BOTH said "Sure! No problem!!" His lame attempt at generating pity by saying he was going to close down his site? His, yours and the rest of the gang's twisting -- after damn near pissing their collective pants at first - of my sarcastic remark to Ken's wondering why I hadn't "targeted" Gamers-Allegiance or any other site?

That answer, btw, was: "Well, I =could= if you really wanted me to... but I'd have to tell them you asked me to first."

[Anyway, I digress. If Ironworks want her around then fine, but just remember that she and Rimshot was the cause between the rift between PBG and TeamBG that is ever so slowly mending.]

Keep talking, Visceris, and you just might believe it. Whatever's going on between TeamBG and PBG is because certain people don't believe the rules apply to them. =I= have never tried to get around my ban at PBG. I haven't been able to post in going on three weeks! Liz has her own site up again! Why am I still a topic of discussion?

[I hate to see a larger rift between ironworks and TeamBG form because of her.]
Most of your people here add a positive experience to the game and to this, she will not. ]

Actions speak louder than words, Visceris. You have just proven that yourself.

[ Darkpiper, I hope you can someday change your self-rightousness and malignent perdatorations

What -- writing to Bioware and Interplay and asking if they were connected with TeamBG because of the 50+ pages of vitriol and threats against Rimshot tacitly encouraged and actively encouraged by Ken and Liz alike? Some of which came from you? Someone dug up Rimshot's home address and phone number and said so on the board, remember?

Or should I email you the file to refresh your memory?

Speaking of threats, shall I mention the letter this past week urging to me to contact artists about Ironworks' site? LillyMunster6060@yahoo.com. She contacted me a few days later, claiming Ziroc had said in his forums he was going to sue me and shut me down and screw me over. Which, of course, was a lie.

If you are indeed a Navy vet as you claimed in the chat, Visceris, you might want to read up on "conduct unbecoming."

Dark Piper

Dark Piper,

With all due respect, please take this to email.

This is a public forum, and the Terms Of Service for this forum ask us not to use this palce to air out personal differences. This arguement has NO place here, it is between you and Visceris.

Please, keep it between you two.

That said, welcome to IronWorks. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif

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The RudeDawg
Known in these Forgotten Realms as Perin LightEyes
and my girlfriends, Pamila and Pfil

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Originally posted by BladeMaster:
Thank You RudeDawg

High-Five, Blade.

Haven't seen you much today. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/ponder.gif

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The RudeDawg
Known in these Forgotten Realms as Perin LightEyes
and my girlfriends, Pamila and Pfil

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Originally posted by BladeMaster:
I have been on and off today. I spent sometime in the BG2 forum in the bar

Ahhh
I've been busy IRL...

Did you post on my demon Strategy thread?
Also, I'm gonna start a new Dwarven Thrower thread (the other was getting too big) so I expect to see you there. I know, Dark Dwarves only... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif

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The RudeDawg
Known in these Forgotten Realms as Perin LightEyes
and my girlfriends, Pamila and Pfil

Quote:

Originally posted by RudeDawg:
Dark Piper,

With all due respect, please take this to email.

This is a public forum, and the Terms Of Service for this forum ask us not to use this palce to air out personal differences. This arguement has NO place here, it is between you and Visceris.

Please, keep it between you two.

That said, welcome to IronWorks. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif

Agreed. Take it somewhere else!!!

Sorry I didn't mean to sound that you were unwelcome. You are! We're just tired of all the arguments.

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If they take my gun can I still use my Axe?

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Originally posted by DarkPiper:
Visceris,

You spouted off in another thread. I'm answering here.

[and such in my games and Darkpiper tried to take that away from us fans. Sure she might have valid reasons (which I do not agree with), but her methods were less than desirable.]

Contacting an artist friend and letting her know her art might be used without her knowledge? Letting her know what a portion of those people think about artists in general?

[Personally I do not think her motivation was not for the welfare of the artists (not at first anyway), but more because of a petty jealousy between herself and Lady Nightshade then it branched out.]

What??

I never even heard of LN before January. I don't run a website -- not even a personal one -- no reason for jealousy there. LN's fans and friends? Sorry, try again. Not interested in that kind of friendship.

Do not presume to speak of my motives. I said, and Teri said, repeatedly in that chat, in other emails and elsewhere what our motives were. They will not change to suit your or anyone else's wishes.

[I have been to that one chat discussion at TeamBG voicechat and you should have seen Darkpiper's true colors.]

EXCUSE ME??

Shall I talk about Ken and Liz's then? Refusing to believe ANYTHING I or Teri Gardner said because it wasn't what they wanted to hear -- BULLSHIT about how we were "working" for Rimshot, and supposedly involved in a lawsuit against them? How about Ken trying to convince Teri that I was lying to her?

Or how about Ken offering to let me and Teri moderate TeamBG, and completely dropped the topic when we BOTH said "Sure! No problem!!" His lame attempt at generating pity by saying he was going to close down his site? His, yours and the rest of the gang's twisting -- after damn near pissing their collective pants at first - of my sarcastic remark to Ken's wondering why I hadn't "targeted" Gamers-Allegiance or any other site?

That answer, btw, was: "Well, I =could= if you really wanted me to... but I'd have to tell them you asked me to first."

[Anyway, I digress. If Ironworks want her around then fine, but just remember that she and Rimshot was the cause between the rift between PBG and TeamBG that is ever so slowly mending.]

Keep talking, Visceris, and you just might believe it. Whatever's going on between TeamBG and PBG is because certain people don't believe the rules apply to them. =I= have never tried to get around my ban at PBG. I haven't been able to post in going on three weeks! Liz has her own site up again! Why am I still a topic of discussion?

[I hate to see a larger rift between ironworks and TeamBG form because of her.]
Most of your people here add a positive experience to the game and to this, she will not. ]

Actions speak louder than words, Visceris. You have just proven that yourself.

[ Darkpiper, I hope you can someday change your self-rightousness and malignent perdatorations

What -- writing to Bioware and Interplay and asking if they were connected with TeamBG because of the 50+ pages of vitriol and threats against Rimshot tacitly encouraged and actively encouraged by Ken and Liz alike? Some of which came from you? Someone dug up Rimshot's home address and phone number and said so on the board, remember?

Or should I email you the file to refresh your memory?

Speaking of threats, shall I mention the letter this past week urging to me to contact artists about Ironworks' site? LillyMunster6060@yahoo.com. She contacted me a few days later, claiming Ziroc had said in his forums he was going to sue me and shut me down and screw me over. Which, of course, was a lie.

If you are indeed a Navy vet as you claimed in the chat, Visceris, you might want to read up on "conduct unbecoming."

Dark Piper

Look I have ENOUGH of your lies, you spiteful deceitful person.
You are part of rimshots mailing list and I had permission from April Lee and you did not like that so you sent her little selected parts from my pbg forum where people had said they didn't like the actions of some artists, all so she would change her mind and and revoke her permission.
50+ pages of threats against Rimshot? 3 and they were joking, like anyone from Europe is going to fly to the USA to beat up Rimshot.(And Ken told people No successfully to stop it about)
GIve me a break.
And Ken never said he was going to shut his site down, you can stop your lies and attempts of poison. He said he felt like it at times because of crap like what you were doing.
And as for the Lily email, prbly an email you made, in attempt to get on Zirocs good side, acting like you care about him. When in fact the only thing you care about is your twisted vendetta against portrait sites.
And waht about the gloating email to Iago telling him you got his site shut down? What was your purpose in closing his site down? Since supposedly you just went after me for stuff said on my forum? What about Havaks site, and Adventurers Guild, you also had them shut down.
And why did you feel it necessary to make an entire new topic instead of emailing Visor replying to Vis in the previous thread? Perhaps so you could try and make people here think you are innocent? Sorry Cyndy actions speak louder then words and your actions have prove you to be a spiteful hateful person.