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shamrock_uk 05-03-2006 12:23 PM

...but why?

I've had a look through a couple of alchemy FAQ's, so I understand the mechanics of it all.

I was wondering if any alchemical wizards out there had some more general tips.

What would be the best way for a fledgling mage with an alchemy score of ~35 to set about learning this skill?

I noticed someone made a living selling potions - are there particular types that sell better than others?

Any general tips? [img]smile.gif[/img]

johnny 05-03-2006 12:40 PM

Alchemy was one of my major skills, so i picked up every flower, plant and whatnot i ran into on my quests, with only one purpose....making money. I didn't even care what sort of potion i was creating, as long as it brought in some cash. I reached level 100 in Alchemy faster than any other skills, and that, next to making cash, is what mattered to me most.

J'aran 05-03-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
What would be the best way for a fledgling mage with an alchemy score of ~35 to set about learning this skill?
Make potions.

Make potions.

And then...

make some more potions.

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I noticed someone made a living selling potions - are there particular types that sell better than others?
No, the cost of the potions, at least the ones you make yourself, is dependent on the quality of the potion rather than on the type(s) of effects. The quality, and thus the cost, will go up when your skill in alchemy goes up.

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Any general tips? [img]smile.gif[/img]
Yeah. Make potions. [img]smile.gif[/img]
That is, after all, the only thing you can do with this skill.

shamrock_uk 05-03-2006 03:07 PM

Thank-you both. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'm making some cash now, but have noticed that there appears to be no difference between ingredients that are vastly superior to others? Is this correct? A non-real example, assuming they both had the same effect: adding a daedra heart instead of bread doesn't seem to increase the magnitude of the effect.

This seems a bit wrong?


Also I can't see any benefit to adding a third ingredient to a potion? Even when the effect is complementary to the existing two, the magnitude doesn't increase. And it doesn't even always add a second effect to the potion - can anyone explain the logic behind this?


I'm really kicking myself for putting alchemy as a major skill though :( Doh, doh!

[ 05-03-2006, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

Seraph 05-03-2006 05:48 PM

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I noticed someone made a living selling potions - are there particular types that sell better than others?
I've found you can get slightly better prices if you use potions with several good effects.
For example at 25+ Alchemy:
Bread Loaf, Orange, Tomato all have Restore Fatigue and Detect Life as usable effects. So if any two of those are combined you'll get a potion with two good effects, and this potion will sell for more then a regular restore fatigue potion would.

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Also I can't see any benefit to adding a third ingredient to a potion? Even when the effect is complementary to the existing two, the magnitude doesn't increase. And it doesn't even always add a second effect to the potion - can anyone explain the logic behind this?
If done correctly adding a third ingredient can let you make potions with lots of effects. If a potion is going to have an effect it needs atleast two ingredients with that effect avaible.

[ 05-03-2006, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Seraph ]

Kyrvias 05-03-2006 09:03 PM

Or, to raise your skill, eat everything you come across. Got my alchemy to 100 double quick.

TheCrimsomBlade 05-03-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kyrvias:
Or, to raise your skill, eat everything you come across. Got my alchemy to 100 double quick.
That is if it doesn't kill you first. LOL be careful what you eat some things will mess you up and lower your health enough that, should get in a fight you may end up dead faster than normal.

Sever 05-04-2006 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
I'm making some cash now, but have noticed that there appears to be no difference between ingredients that are vastly superior to others? Is this correct? A non-real example, assuming they both had the same effect: adding a daedra heart instead of bread doesn't seem to increase the magnitude of the effect.

This seems a bit wrong?

Ya, i agree. The value of the ingredients has no effect on the final value of the potion. At lower levels you are actually better off selling some of the raw ingredients than turning them into potions.

Ilander 05-04-2006 01:50 AM

Alchemy makes seemingly impossible fights very doable...no spoilers, but let's just say that Nightshade grows pretty close to a certain tough fight...and that 100 I've got in alchemy sure paid off nicely, there.


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