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poespinkie 02-10-2002 07:33 AM

I do not know, but I seem to have real problems here. I am not much of a magic strategist. I am trying to use Protection from evil 10'radius. Is it normal that the demons continue to beat the hell out of me while under this spell's protection? I have read that one can ignore these creatures to concentrate on the main enemy. Does not work for me. I have heard to summon lots of creatures to keep them busy. They are usually destroyed faster than I can summon more. only Cerberus hacks it out for long.

I know it is not the best party (only 2 fighters), but...

Ranger lvl 17
Minsc lvl 17
Cernd lvl 14
Imoen lvl 15
Nalia lvl 16
Aerie lvl 14/13

As you can guess I do not have much in the way of high level spells at my disposal. I think that if I were to get through the final battle it would be total luck. Maybe I should just start over.

skier9205 02-10-2002 09:02 AM

It's a good thought but no, casting Protection from Evil on yourself when you fight Irenicus in the last battle won't due anything. What is true though is that you should immediately start hacking away at Irenicus the moment you see him. When he's out of the way, then go after the other demons. Good luck.

TIP: Unless you are planning to go to ToB with this party use all potions, wands and limited-use items you have; It's the last battle, you're not going to need them anymore!

poespinkie 02-10-2002 09:06 AM

Thanks!

I started a new character today, but I will give it a few more tries.

Poes

PeeWee 02-10-2002 10:01 AM

Um, Protection from evil - not a great spell but okay... All it does is give a slight penalty. It's not immunity.

I wouldn't even know where you are since I'm new to the game but I do know that protection from evil only used by one character isn't a get out of jail free card.

Now if you had two different characters with overlapping proterction fields, it may be different. Not sure here... but one spell just gives a -2 to hit for the enemies and gives you a +2 on your saving throws.

I like the saving throws part, BUT I don't like the small penalty for the melee side. Too small if ya ask me. If you have a tough npc on your butt already hitting for 20's and above, you bet it won't suffer too much from a -2 on his to hit roll. ( I'm just now noticing your party make-up and cast and recast those stone skins, it's vital in your situation plus protection from energy and magical weapons.)

Ask around since there are tricks to getting more pets -undead ones- I don't know of it but just heard. If you made a legionne of these and envelopped everyone under this protection spell...it may buy you more time.

I would doom and disintegrate anything I could that isn't gonna give loot in conjunction with the protection from evil spell.

Cast pets, buff them- protection from evil radius 10, defensive harmony, bless, haste. This now gives you more attack bonuses and gives the enemies more of a penalty. If ya can, read over the rules/descriptions on how some of those spells work. I also like to throw in Glitterdust - but that's normally because I open with dooms.

And ... You may be mislead. May be confusing protection from undead with protection from evil. I also can't help ya here since I haven't used that scroll yet nor do I know your area. I've heard it works well when facing lichs and that sort. Maybe this is what you need to try out.

I basically have 3 guys doom the same thing as an opener. Lower resist, early insect plague to get hits in, then breach(dun even have pierce magic yet heh), then send in the chromatic orbs. The orbs deal dmg regardless of saves. ((( this is when I'm up against one tough mofo however)))) summoned stuff is just there to buy more time for my melee to try and dmg whatever is there.

I also use spells that deal at least half dmg when the save is made. Then you have the spells that dish out dmg according to plane. Daystar's ability to insta-kill is nice to have.

I also notice you don't have a priest... Bolts of glory are good to use. Anomen in my party is beginning to use those more and more. No saves is needed to me made, it dishes out whatever dmg against one target ---for demons it's 10d6. I'm also going to play with using FireStorm when Minsc uses the red dragon armor. Again, no saves for that spell. 2d8 +1/level of caster = fun when I get Minsc with his 115 pro fire getting the enemies around him.

If you gave a bit more info on the situation, I'd be willing to give pointers( probably ways to work an area instead of the -two win- spoiler). There are gonna be tons of ways you can deal with something and it's gonna take one person who has done it the easy way to lead you in the right path. You have damned near enough mages by the way [img]smile.gif[/img]

Don't give up and G'luck.

poespinkie 02-10-2002 10:48 AM

Spoiler, I guess...
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Well you just gotta keep trying different strategies I guess. I ended up hiding until the slayer unsummoned. Then I isolated Irenicus and broke through most of his shielding. I surrounded him with summonings and my two fighters. Aerie and Cernd healing once or twice. It was no longer impossible. Wow! Did not think that I would get through that.

It seems that you cannot continue after the final battle. If I get Throne of Bhaal would I be able to continue from here or would I go back to an earlier save game. Anyway, I am starting a new character as I said to try to do some of the things that I missed. Thanks for the support everyone.

Poes

skier9205 02-10-2002 11:11 AM

If you did get ToB you would go back to the save point called Final Save and play Irenicus again then it would automatically take you in to ToB. Or, you could go in to the ToB section and import your game from the Final Save point and start off w/o beating Irenicus again.

Harry 02-10-2002 11:25 AM

i didn't think that fight was that hard. I was at the experience cap, and then all i did was send my fighters (my neato assasin, minsc, and some other guy) to kill off them pesky demons, in the mean time i had imoen, and some other mage just bug irenicus. the demons fell, and then irenicus was killed


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