I wonder how tough this demogorgon actually is since i just can't "turn" him visible. He is there i know by using area affect spells like detect evil and dispel magic but i can't target him or anythin else

Anyone please help

btw the machine of Lum the Mad doesn't work as well

Are you playing Watchers Keep in SoA or in ToB???? I didn't have any problems with ToB and Demongorgon or the machine of Lum. Keep it updated. and welcome http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/xyxwave.gif http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/wavey.gif

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I'm in ToB and I've got the new patch (Lum the mad;s machine doesn't *do* anything except opening portal)

And I can talk to Demogorgon but cannot attack each other or even see him.

Well, about Demongorgon, that depends on which dialogues you chosen. If you can't remember, go talk to the knight on top of watchers keep, they "abused" your help, then return and you should be able to kill him (then he reveals and you kick it's ass). Then about the machine, there are different codes for the machine of Lum, you can get extra point on each skill (such as dexterity ect.) ( search for Lum's notes through Watchers Keep)

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Spell formulater of the IW peace-keeping force
Magical advisor of MiLady Lioness

the machine says i get a bonus or penalty (15 level drained for example) but it doesn't show up anywhere.

You should be able to see it in the character screen of the affected character. If not, well, that's weird http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/conf.gif

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Sorry , am i in the wrong forum? lol - http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gifhttp://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gifhttp://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gifhttp://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

p.s had no trouble killin demogorgon

and about this demogorgon thing I tried it yesterday again and still doesn't work

try nr. 1: casting "the" scroll right away and he sais he's demogorgon(and that we're gonna fight) but I can't see him anywhere
try nr. 2: casting the scroll again but ask the improsoned one to open portal and come back later to find invisible Demo and bunch of dead helmists (or whatever they're called)
try nr. 3: don't cast scroll but (try to) attack him anyway and again -> invisible Demogorgon
try nr. 4: don,t cast the scroll and agree to trick helm dudes into convincing that Demogorgon is dead afterwards talk with a spirit and again I find bunch of dead helm dudes and invisible Demogorgon
Try nr. 5: get out and cast the scroll the spirit gave me and go on (still pissed cause I've never sen him except in screenshots)

and about this demogorgon thing I tried it yesterday again and still doesn't work

try nr. 1: casting "the" scroll right away and he sais he's demogorgon(and that we're gonna fight) but I can't see him anywhere
try nr. 2: casting the scroll again but ask the improsoned one to open portal and come back later to find invisible Demo and bunch of dead helmists (or whatever they're called)
try nr. 3: don't cast scroll but (try to) attack him anyway and again -> invisible Demogorgon
try nr. 4: don,t cast the scroll and agree to trick helm dudes into convincing that Demogorgon is dead afterwards talk with a spirit and again I find bunch of dead helm dudes and invisible Demogorgon
Try nr. 5: get out and cast the scroll the spirit gave me and go on (still pissed cause I've never sen him except in screenshots)

whoops posted the same thing twice