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hagimihale 09-11-2001 05:47 PM

Mistakenly called her Amoen in an earlier post...

Wondering how early most of the board has gone to free Imoen. I recall reading here that Imoen is a better mage than Jan in the long run (since she can get high level spells). It occurs to me that it would be worth swapping out Jan for Amoen early so that Imoen gets as much XP as possible.

Is Imoen a liability from a thief standpoint? How hard is the quest to get her back? I will have the needed $ soon. Thanks for any and all opinions...


Zoltan 09-11-2001 06:18 PM

Interesting post Hagimi. I think you like to pit agains NPC's http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Well Imoen VS Jan hmm though fight http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

First of all, Jan is funny, Imoen is sexy they cannot be compared, ok ok here it's.. as I found Imoen Nalia's XP was 1.900.000 and Imoen? She was only 400.000! There's 1.500.000 xp difference and Jan got better thievry skills. And also if your protagaonist is a mage so Imoen is useless, because already you got a primary mage. A primary mage is enough and backups are bonus, useful.

Will Imoen's thievery skills be enough? I didnt play with her so much so I cant give you a satisfinyg answer but her detect illusion skill was zero as I remembered and this skill lets you detect illusion/hidden doors. I may be wrong if so please correct me. And her other skills are mediocre not great but you can make her satisfinyg with potions.

I said so much bad things about Imoen but with my other party I'll take her. My current party is me(fighter),anomen,minsc,jan,nalia,aerie. My other party is me(skald),keldorn,valygar,yoshimatsu,jaheira,anome n. I will replace yoshi with Imoen and I'll try her out.

hagimihale 09-11-2001 07:50 PM

Main character is a sorcerer. Also have Anomen, Jahiera, Minsc, Viconia (for now) and of course Jan. Restarted the game at the end of chapter 1 to swap out Yoshi for Jan. Jan (or Imoen) will be a backup mage and primary thief.

Gwhanos, Lord Of Evil 09-11-2001 07:56 PM

you can still swap a char; just tell em to wait at the copper corenet!

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Hojou 09-12-2001 03:48 AM

Where do you find Jan?

Avatar 09-12-2001 06:02 AM

Jan is in the gov. section at the parks.

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oldbittercraig 09-12-2001 03:42 PM

Imoen is still better than Jan even if *you* are a mage. Her thief skills are decent and as a single class character she will hit level 18 LOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGG before Jan.

Having two mages capable of casting level 8 & 9 spells is definitely a good thing and to your advantage in *any* fight.

mistral4543 09-12-2001 07:40 PM

Jan is good for pickpocketing and setting traps (very useful once you set his success rate to 90% and above).

So far, he has helped me earn about 700K through pickpocketing and I've managed to buy everything I need from Deirdre, Ribald and Trademeet merchants. And I still have a few more potions of master thievery, in case I need more.

But I agree Imoen is a better support in terms of spellcasting.

floyd 09-12-2001 07:51 PM

I've found that support spellcasters are overrated. In most fights, it becomes to complex and chaotic (especially in ToB), to have multiple mages casting tons of spells. For me, Edwin is enough in the spellcasting department. I don't know the makeup of your party, but you'd be better off picking up another fighter, such as Keldorn, or possibly Viconia if you are short on clerics.

I'm toying with the idea of using imoen this time, though, as I wouldn't mind hearing some of her dialouges at plot points.

Zoltan 09-13-2001 09:31 AM

I disagree about a point. Imoen can be a better mage than Jan but Jan is a much better THIEF than Imoen. Imoen is stuck with level 7. Jan can advance to level 25. Do you know the difference?

What's Imoen's detect illusion skill?

zero!

Can this skill improved with any potions etc?

no..

So jan rocks!


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