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Pi 04-03-2001 09:02 AM

Hi all
I wonder how is working the spell "Summon fire elemental" of Jaheira ?
When i use this spell, the elemental is created and is friendly but just a few round later it become agressive even if no mage has casted some charm monster spell.
I ve got the same problem with a summoned earth elemental by my wizard.

Do the person who summoned the elemental has to control it without casting others spells ?
is it a bug ?

Thanks for help because I don't like to fight monster AND my summoned creatures who tried to backstab me

grrrr


Pi

Melusine 04-03-2001 09:10 AM

in the case of the wizard-created elemental, there is a chance that the elemental has turned against the mage, because in the spell description it says the mage needs 3 rounds to determine whether the elemental will obey him. In the druid-created case this is not necessary, the elemental will alwyas automatically obey the caster.
Therefore, in the case of your mage-elemental, it can be the case that you just lost the "battle of wits" and in the druid-elemental case, the elemental shouldn't be able to turn against you. I think you hit Jaheira's summoned elemental with a spell accidentally, maybe a fireball, web, stinking cloud, cone of cold...? You should be very careful with any area effect spells, because if the elemental gets hit by it, it will turn against you

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dafan 04-03-2001 09:10 AM

try protection gfrom evil

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Pi 04-03-2001 09:25 AM

Ok i ve got it

Summoned Creatures are just charmed and so,when it put a fireball ( i liked fireball upon my 90% fire resistent paladin) in the middle of the battle the elemental is not happy
ok ok
i won't do it again, i swear

another question :
what 6 lvl spell must i choose for my 12lvl sorc ?

desintegration sound great but desingration of magic object is not my goal

maybe summon elemental ? It can help to summon 4 elemental before a big battle

what do you think of it ?

Pi

Melusine 04-03-2001 09:30 AM

Yes, as you said yourself, disintegrate is not a good idea because it disintegrates all cool items on the victim (someone a few threads down had that problem when he killed the shadow dragon using disintegrate)
Tow of my personal favorites are Death Spell and Chain Lightning. Esp. the latter is great when you're fighting a group of magic-users. Cast one well-timed chain lightning and they'll all suffer spell casting failure.
I wouldn't advice the elemental summoning spells for wizards, 1. becuase there are staves in the game that do it for you (Staff of Fire etc) and 2. because Jaheira can summon an elemental which is automatically obedient.

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Pi 04-03-2001 09:36 AM

i ve got the fire staff but i don't know where to get it "refuel" so i keep it for later use

For group spell user, i use Instect Plague. Very useful

Do you know how to get protected against confusion ?


Melusine 04-03-2001 09:41 AM

yes, equip lilarcor or let a druid/cleric cast Chaotic Commands on you (5th level). Berserker rage also protects from confusion

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Hesperex 04-03-2001 12:49 PM

Who wants to summon elementals when they can summon pit fiends http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif muwhahahahha, Oh how I wish I could summon a Balor http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif (realy evil grin)

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Accord 04-03-2001 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hesperex:
Who wants to summon elementals when they can summon pit fiends http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif muwhahahahha, Oh how I wish I could summon a Balor http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif (realy evil grin)

Indeed, however don't forget protection of evil.

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Hesperex 04-03-2001 01:10 PM

oh course not !

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