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mad0die 03-15-2001 04:44 PM

I am starting up a non-good party. Edwin, Viconia and Korgan are no-brainers. I myself am a CN assassin. What I really need is another fighter-type and I am sick of Jaheira from my last time through. How do Minsc and/or Valygar get along with low rep parties and the above Evil NPCs? Is it possible to get Valygar, Minsc or Keldorn into Fallen status?

Thanks...

Melusine 03-15-2001 04:49 PM

Minsc will NOT get along with Edwin and generally speaking, good NPCs are unhappy in an evil party and might even leave your party. I have no idea why you're fed up with Jaheira but my advice is: KEEP HER!! She's a great tank/healer/mage disabler (two words: creeping doom another two: insect plague).
There simply aren't enough evil NPCs to fill up your party so you'll have to settle for neutrals instead. My ideal party for an evil player character would be:
You
Korgan
Viconia
Edwin
Jan
Jaheira

If you really want to lose jaheira, the other neutrals in the game are Yoshimo Haerdelis Cernd

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MILAMBER 03-15-2001 04:59 PM

Welcome to the Board!!!

Stay away from Keldorn!!! I had a mixed group, but mostly good, then I added Viconia, and Keldorn tried to kill her like 15 times. I kept having to re load a saved game. Why don't you like Jaheira. I think she is much improved in BGII and the Druid spells at higher level are great. Nothing like summoning 3 or 4 fire elementals.

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Raistlin 03-15-2001 05:02 PM

Is that opposite alignment helm in this game?

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Fljotsdale 03-15-2001 05:04 PM

I really hate playing evil! Done it a couple of time In Might&Magic games to get the quests, but VERY uncomfortable. Guess I'm just too angelic. Sigh! http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...miles/tdo9.gif
F.

Epona 03-15-2001 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Fljotsdale:
I really hate playing evil! Done it a couple of time In Might&Magic games to get the quests, but VERY uncomfortable. Guess I'm just too angelic. Sigh! http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...miles/tdo9.gif
F.

Me too! I have tried playing evil parties, but it's just not in me to be evil! Too much time helping old ladies across the road and rescuing kittens. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

BTW, can someone please explain the term *no brainer* to me? (I'm English, we don't use that one here much!!!)

Cheers mate,

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mad0die 03-15-2001 05:27 PM

No-brainer means an obvious choice. Sorry for the slang!

I find Jaheria rather annoying and not that good. I would classify her as average. I used her last time through as a good party so I would like to try someone new. Looks like Haer Dalis might be best option for me.

No one really responded if it was possible to get one of the NPC rangers or Paladin to become Fallen - anyone know?

MILAMBER 03-15-2001 05:29 PM

I don't want to steal the thread, or make an ass out of myself because you are being sarcastic, but no brainer is something that is easy to the point of being able to do it without thought. Example- Looking both ways before crossing the street is a "no brainer".

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
Me too! I have tried playing evil parties, but it's just not in me to be evil! Too much time helping old ladies across the road and rescuing kittens. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

BTW, can someone please explain the term *no brainer* to me? (I'm English, we don't use that one here much!!!)

Cheers mate,




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MILAMBER 03-15-2001 05:32 PM

Jaheira annoying?

I could see Jaheira possibly being seen as annoying, except for the fact that I went through AAERIE!! If I heard "faster then chitika fastpaws" one more time, I was going go crazy and start killing puppies.

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Epona 03-15-2001 06:21 PM

Thanks for the explanation - don't worry about using slang - I've used loads of colloquial phrases in posts - sometimes people understand, other times they don't, if in doubt I'm sure anyone who's confused will ask.

Different phrases, cultures & ways of using language all add extra flavour to this place, one of the reasons I come here. I have learnt a new phrase today, and I will use it to create confusion at work tomorrow http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

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