I just killed the shadow dragon by setting about 10 traps in its circle. When I shot it with an arrow the traps were sprung and the Dragon was Near Death. It only took another shot or two with arrows to kill it off. How many of you consider this tactic to be cheating? I don't because if I was really facing a dragon and could set traps to kill it and make my life easier, then that's what I would do.

Domer

Not cheating at all and good for you ! http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif

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I refer to these types of strategies as "legal cheats" -- items in the game that allow for an easy victory.

I look at it like this. The developers made the game playable. Traps make some victories possible. When I played solo as a first level theif (after dualling from a mage), traps saved my hide on more than one occasion. There are several battles that I could not have won if it weren't for traps.

On the other hand, using traps every time you meet a tough opponent really makes the game boring quickly. If you can kill a dragon every time by setting 10 traps, what's the thrill of killing a dragon? For variety, and personal satisfaction, I have tried other strategies after killing the dragon with traps the first time through. The most fun was lower resitance followed by 15 magic missle spells.

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Other legal cheats would include:
1)Drinking many potions of thievery and then buying and selling from thieve's merchants.
2)Having a high reputation and high charisma and selling and buying from the Priestess in the Underwater City (she sells lower than she buys).
3)Using a Wand of Cloudkill on an unseen opponent.

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[This message has been edited by Father Bronze (edited 03-15-2001).]

it is not cheating, but it is a bug. the dragon was like:" ohh... the hell they doing?? ahhh, I see, they are setting traps around me, so I will die later. hmm, pretty smart."

In the case of the *shadow dragon*, I wouldn't consider it cheating because of the wardstone. If you have the wardstone, he can't see you...so technically you could probably set traps w/out him noticing. I wish that I'd thought of that!http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

I kind of thought it was curious that if you shoot at a friendly character they turn hostile, but if you surround them with traps at there feet, they don't seem to view that as a hostile action towards them. Maybe they think you are just setting them up to proctect them... anyway. I shall search for new ways to beat dragons because it is too easy and makes the game boring to use the same tactics everytime, especially this one.

use wand of cloud kill on unseen opponent is DEFINATELY not a cheat, not even legal cheat.

If I am an adventure, and I saw my enemy just "vanished" in front of my eyes, my first reaction is to predict where he could be and throw a cloud kill there. it is not cheating

I agree, sort of.

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I used that exact strategy when trying to kill Neb. He vanished. I cast cloudkill (since I didn't have any dispel invisibility or true sight spells handy) and fireball until I had taken him out.

However, it is too easy to use cloudkill. Dragons for example. If you know where the dragon is (after say -- reloading) you can go up, just outside of sight and cast cloudkill into the fog of war. Do this 8-10 times and the dragon dies. I guess on higher difficulties, the dragon will run out of the cloud, but on the normal setting he/she just sits there and chokes to death -- every time.



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yes, that is just a design flaw. heh, you can CERTAINLY try this strategy in IWD: heart of winter. you will end up having a dozen dragons on your tail... http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif

i've just saved after killing the shadow dragon but i shot a wand of cloudkill into fog of war, then beat the sh*te out of him and am not sure if i can justifie this as not cheating or not

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