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Loudhy 01-12-2004 01:57 AM

Hi,

I started this own topic because I think it is different to a story of new party.

I discovered something that I never saw before : My party was Lvl 11 on the Arnika-Trynton-Road when I met two Lvl 15 Geomancers and their elemental. I rarely met +3 Lvl monsters ( I know that there is a usual difference of 2 Lvl between monster and party ) but in all of my games I never had a difference of 4 Lvl between party and enemy.

Has anyone discovered the same ?

Greetings

[img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

Edit : I know that "Fixed" monster can have a much higher Lvl than a party.

[ 01-12-2004, 01:59 AM: Message edited by: Loudhy ]

ferro287 01-12-2004 02:13 AM

Just for clarification: How did you calculate the party level? everyone's the same level?

Loudhy 01-12-2004 02:24 AM

Yes, everyone has Lvl 11

Ben Lauritson 01-12-2004 08:15 AM

When my solo faerie ninja/bishop was level 13, she occasionally ran into savant beserkers at level 17.

Deejax 01-12-2004 09:30 AM

It is not a explanation for these occurences, but every area has a minimum and maximum monster level. If you were to get a level one party to the swamp or, even worse, onto ascension peak, the difference between party level and monster level would be (way) bigger than 4.

Scatter 01-12-2004 11:11 AM

Both the Road zones are pretty famous for the occasional extreme mismatch. Arnika Road tends to be the worst that way, but A-T Road is close.

dplax 01-12-2004 01:53 PM

And if you got too early to Arnika you can with a lvl 7-8 party meet lvl 21 savant guys.

Loudhy 01-13-2004 12:12 AM

Hi.

Dplax:
I read that in an earlier topic . IIRC this extreme mismatch is a bug in the game. I mentioned that +4 difference on Arnika-Trynton-Road, because in all of the 15 or 16 month I playing the game now I never saw such a difference in this area and I never saw Geomancers there . I always thought that some areas ( like the roads ) have an upper monster limit, because later in the game ( with party lvl 20 or higher ) I never met monster on the same level.

Scatter:
Many of the posts in the past told about the problems on Arnika Road. I can't understand that. With my current parties ( mo magic users ) I always leave the monastery al Level 6 . I have not that experience with low levels in this map but I never met monster there with a difference higher than 2. ( Roustabout, Highwayman, Crimson Poppy, Iron Weed, Caustic Vine, Acidvine, Soldier Ant, Hardshell Crab, Venom Crab , Apus, Wasp and Cutpurses with a Sige ). That's all I can remember ( difficulty : normal ) .

Greetings

[img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

Scatter 01-13-2004 12:50 AM

Yah, i enter AR at L5 most of the time, and likewise rarely have a bad balance, but as soon as you get over 6, it can really jump around.

Holywhippet 01-13-2004 05:49 AM

I think it isn't so much a bug as a design oversight. You outnumber the geomancers and they don't have that many hitpoints. The elementals are fairly tough but are still only one monster. From a numbers/level/hitpoints balance it shouldn't be a problem, except that the geomancers are very strong magic users and can whipping rock you into submission in no time.


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