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Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 07-08-2003 06:50 PM

I've looked in the manual for more info. on this, but all it says is that he/she "does extra damage". Can anyone quantify this? I'm just running around with my 6 Rogues now.

Ziggurat 07-08-2003 09:51 PM

A rogue gives you 2x damage with backstab as you develop him/her. Then 3x, 4x, 5x ... I don't know what the limit is but it amplifies your damage big time. The last time I played one it was 5x the maximum damage cited for the weapon. Considerable. That's why I consider a rogue about equal to a fighter, or at least a lord or valkyrie, in melee if developed right. And they have stealth and lockpicking.

ScottG 07-08-2003 10:14 PM

I think they are better than fighters when considering damage alone (and not taking into account attribute point distribution - ie. senses instead of strength). Remember though that you need to use a weapon that will allow for backstab (shortsword or dagger).

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 07-08-2003 10:57 PM

I'll remember that about the weapons. I'm using swords with some of them now; I'll get rid of them. What factor influences the extra damage; speed, senses?

Ziggurat 07-09-2003 12:01 AM

There is a good point here. I had backstab work with almost any weapon that a rogue could use. Of course, I went for swords and daggers. But staves and maces probably would not work. Any experience with this?

gator 07-09-2003 08:24 AM

I believe that any weapon with a Thrust attack mode can be used for backstabbing. Most (or many all) swords have that attack mode. So even some of the uber swords can be used.

ScottG 07-10-2003 08:07 PM

sorry 'bout stating "short sword", really all swords are short swords in the game - excepet for the giant sword which can't be utilized with a rouge anyway.

I only put that in there because I remember someone stating how they loved the staff of doom with their rouge. The staff of doom is my favorite weapon but its not a weapon to give your rouge - no backstab.

here is an oddity.....
correct me if i'm wrong, but rouges can't use polearms can they? Typically you'll see trynnie champions and patrols do backstab damage with polearms - if the former is correct then whats the deal?

ChaosTheorist 07-10-2003 08:17 PM

Yeah, the Trynnie "backstab" with their spears all the time. Guess they get an "exemption" or something....


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