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Ziggurat 06-20-2003 06:06 PM

I just got a Serpent's Tooth from a plumed serpent. I may use it to replace my rogues Thief's Dagger, but since he also is using Bloodlust it won't solve the curse problem. The stats are moderately impressive for a dagger: To hit +2, initiative +3, hp 3-13, dagger skill + 10, and then the kicker. Poison 60%, power zero. It doesn't charge up either, as far as I know. Is there a way to make this thing do poison, is it a misprint, or is this another questionable weapon like Beastslayer Axe?

Ziggurat 06-21-2003 12:36 AM

I'm replying to myself here...I also have a cameo locket with +4 armor, Male only. It says its "charge" is zero. I think it is a mistake. There is no spell listed. Nice to have though. If I remember to do it, I will sell it and buy it back to see if it charges and maybe find out what else it can do!

Wereboar 06-23-2003 07:01 AM

Did you check if you're thief has a proper race? Sepent's Tooth can only be used by 3-4 races.
And no, i think thieves dagger is far better (high critical chance).

There are other items with 0 charges - IIRC gem of power, and some other amulet. Probably a bug.
BTW ever tried to make a doublestrike dagger with your gadgeteer?

tuckyboy 06-23-2003 04:24 PM

Wereboar,

How do you make a doublestrike dagger?

gator 06-23-2003 04:32 PM

Merge an two ordinary daggers and it creates this:

[019F]
Type: Short Weapon
Weight: 0.0
Professions: ---------------
Races: -----------
Equippable Slots: Primary Weapon
Cursed Status: Not Cursed
Double Damage Vs: Fighter
Attack Range: Short
Skills: Sword
Sex: Unknown
Requires: Strength 0, Strength 0, Sword 0, Sword 0
Price: 0g
To Create: [0000] Dagger + [0000] Dagger

It should have created this:

[02A4] Doublestrike Dagger
Type: Short Weapon
Weight: 1.0
Professions: FLVRSN-RGB-A-PM
Races: HEDGHFLDFRM
Damage: 1 - 4
To Hit: +1
Initiative: +4
Equippable Slots: Primary Weapon, Secondary Weapon
Cursed Status: Not Cursed
Attack Range: Short
Skills: Dagger
Attack Modes: Thrust
Price: 950g
# of Attacks: +1
To Identify: Artifacts 18

IIRC the doublestrike dagger can be obtained from Crock.

Ziggurat 06-23-2003 07:13 PM

I think I tried the doublestrike dagger once, just to see the worthless thing. You are right about the race limitations for Serpents Tooth, only usable by Dracon and Lizardman. "How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child" or worthless weapon. I think the cameo locket was important in Wiz 6, so maybe it's a continuity prop. And I'm betting you can't hurt anyone with the dead frog.


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