Hmm.... I thought I had almost completed the game. I got to Marten's ghost - he refused to give me the Destinae Dominus... I killed him adn found that it made my chars crazy(luckily I saved)

Now, I need to get the helm of serenity, which I need to get the serenity key, for which I need to speak to Tryton Shaman, for which I need to get idol, for which I need to get access to Mine tunnels.

1. I have never been able to figure out how to open the mine tunnel door, from swamp entrance - any help there?

2. Please give me path from mine tunnels to idol.

3. What do I do with the idol once I get it?

4. Where is room where you use the serenity key?

5. And, should I expect any other surprises while getting the helm of serenity?

Thanks!!!

LakisBrine;

*****SPOILER******

I'll just recap from the swamp, you probably already know some of this... From the Swamp you head east to mine tunnels and after you've dealt with the android monk and all that good stuff, you should head up a steep and narrow path (it has a handrail on the left side, not that you can fall off), at the top you meander around a little bit till you find some rocks and bushes (I know, this isn't very helpful) there are rocks and bushes all over, but if you have a ranger or detect secrets on you'll get a message about a suspicious rock. You'll know you've gone too far if you step on a pressure plate and get squashed by some boulders. The rock opens a door into the control room. In the control room, there is a panel of buttons, which will open another panel across the room with the correct mine tunnel settings. Exit the control room, find the "railcar" room match the settings to the ones you saw in the control room and climb on the railcar and release the brake....and you're off...After the mine tunnels, you go through Lower Martens Bluff and the Martens Bluff....you'll find the Idol in one of the upper rooms in Martens bluff.

Take the Idol to Trynton in one of the upper branches you'll find the shaman...(and here is where my memory gets hazy.)....The Shaman asks you a question and the answer is something you find from Martens Diary. He'll give you the key that opens another door in Trynton ( a specific item required door), and that room allows you to drop into where the serenity helm is being kept.

I don't remember any surprises in getting the helm....but there certainly is a surprise when getting the idol...my advice....save before you pick up the idol.

Hope this is what you want...

Warning! Spoilers.........'

The idol is in one of the two gaurd towers in the Bluff. They are a little hard to see, are on either side of a big door that leads to front entrance to Bluff. On the way there, you should pull a big switch on a wall to open access to this area (big door) after going through the mine tunnels so you don't have to do that again. A member of your party wiill disappear when you grab the idol, you will find him/her at the Swamp store (after a quest, in a way). The idol is used in Bough 6 on a stump near a door, place it there. The key is used in the first room on right in Rattkin tree, after going around little passage there. Note the slab on the floor. You may need to click it twice to find way to Serenity.

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