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Dundee Slaytern 12-03-2001 11:43 AM

I have a level 10 Archer, he is using a Composite Long Bow and Normal Arrows. He has 18 DEX.

Arrows does 1D6 damage
C.Long Bow adds 1 damage
Archer's bonuses add 3 damage( or is it +4?)

Therotically, my maximum damage is 6 + 1 + 3 = 10 Damage

How is it that I sometimes get 15 Damage? And never go below 9 damage? Where do the extra 4-5 damage come from?

Morgeruat 12-03-2001 11:49 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
I have a level 10 Archer, he is using a Composite Long Bow and Normal Arrows. He has 18 DEX.

Arrows does 1D6 damage
C.Long Bow adds 1 damage
Archer's bonuses add 3 damage( or is it +4?)

Therotically, my maximum damage is 6 + 1 + 3 = 10 Damage

How is it that I sometimes get 15 Damage? And never go below 9 damage? Where do the extra 4-5 damage come from?
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does the game give you extra damage for specialization for missile weapons? I know PnP doesn't unless it's a point-blank shot..., but if it does, and you have ***** then you easily have the extra 4-5 damage

Dundee Slaytern 12-03-2001 11:57 AM

Doh! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon20.gif Forgot about that... ...

I have the Grandmaster Patch from Balderdash, how much extra damage do I get with ***** in Longbows?

Also, what are my kit bonuses with a level 10 Archer? Is it +3 THACO, +3 Damage, or +4 THACO, +4 Damage?

Barb 12-03-2001 02:19 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Doh! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon20.gif Forgot about that... ...

I have the Grandmaster Patch from Balderdash, how much extra damage do I get with ***** in Longbows?

Also, what are my kit bonuses with a level 10 Archer? Is it +3 THACO, +3 Damage, or +4 THACO, +4 Damage?
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That proves that even the greats make mistakes sometimes! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dundee Slaytern 12-03-2001 03:55 PM

*bump*

Legolas, help!

Sorcerer Alex 12-03-2001 04:31 PM

Arrows do 1-6 damage

Grandmastery in longbow gives +3 to damage

Composite longbow gives +1 damage

I think your strength makes a difference, but I'm not sure as a bow is a missile weapon. This is the only thing I can think of that would affect damage.

Morgeruat 12-03-2001 04:40 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Arledrian:
Arrows do 1-6 damage

Grandmastery in longbow gives +3 to damage

Composite longbow gives +1 damage

I think your strength makes a difference, but I'm not sure as a bow is a missile weapon. This is the only thing I can think of that would affect damage.
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thanx, i've been trying to look this up all over the place... we haven't forgotten you Dundee

Jim 12-03-2001 05:10 PM

Ah, I can help here. ***** in longbow using the grandmaster patch makes it equal to that of icewind dale and BG1. This gives you a whole extra attack per round and your damage increases by one with each slot, i.e. **=+2 damage, ***=+3 damage etc so you get +5 damage there. Strength *definately* does not affect any bow. The only missile weapons that include a strength bonus are throwing weapons such as axes and teh sling of seeking from Bernard in the Copper Cornet.

Dundee, you ask what bonuses a level 10 archer will have. These are:
lvl 3=+1
lvl 6=+1
lvl 9=+1

So you'll have +3 to hit and damage according to the character kit. I myself am not convinced though as my archer seems to have a further +1 to hit after i've taken dex, weapon, ammo and kit bonuses into consideration so I think they gain +1 to hit and damage upon creating the character, and then recieve further bonuses every 3 levels.

Legolas 12-03-2001 05:19 PM

Legolas is here ;)
You think I would not notice a thread with the word 'archer' in the title? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Okay,
The normal arrow does 1D6 damage
The composite longbow gives you +1 to hit and +2 to damage
Your Archer bonus is +3 to hit and +3 to damage
Grand Mastery gives you +2 to hit and +3 to damage
Your Dexterity gives you a +2 to hit but no bonus to damage
So, that's a +7 to hit and a 1D6+8 damage.

1D6+8 results in damage from 1+8 to 6+8, or 9-14
And then you have the critical hits...


There you go, no problem ;)

Jim 12-03-2001 05:30 PM

Very decent and detailed info Legolas but.......

He's using the Baldurlash grandmaster patch which gives +5 damage when grandmastery with a particular weapon.

The latest BG2/ToB patch actually reduces the damage from a composite long bow to +1 :(

Total damage should therefore be:
1D6 arrow
1 Composite long bow
3 archer kit
5 grandmastery

=max 15 damage [img]smile.gif[/img]


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