Hi everyone,

so here is what I did.

Rattus gave me that bankjob note. It was a stickup notice, so I killed him (being a good girl and all). When I get to the tree the Rattusses attack me. Should have thought of that, duh. Anyway, I kill Don Barlone (what a fight, my group is only level 10 and he was immune to all the magic) and surprise ... he has the Astral Dominae.

Did I get that thing to early and change the course of the game? Has anybody else gone that route?

MaraJade
(Rattkiller)

Nah, everything's fine. There are two ways to get the A.D. ... either pay Barlone' a ridiculous sum of money for it (90,000 GP or something like that), or kill him and get it.

Killing him is no mean feat; congrats!

Oh, and BTW, if you remember him from Wizardry 7, he is no angel...he pretty much "raped" his homeland, sold his home world out to the invaders, then double-crossed the T-Rang and snagged a ship of theirs and that's how the Ratts got to Dominus. Now they're doing the same thing to the poor little Trynnie. You did Dominus a service! :D

-Sazerac

Heh - going back to kill Don myself soon. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I dunno, I never liked him. He just rubbed me wrong. Came across as a two timing, dirty little rat to me... ;)

I noticed that when you kill him, your rating with the Rattkin Mafia drops...I'm now wondering what could be if a Wiz 9 gets developed and we import characters into it that the Rattkin Mafia don't like or how much would change in a Wiz 9 if we let him live.

We are kind of kicking ourselves here for not shaking our copy of Wiz 7 out of our friend's toybox when we visited them (upstate) in Dec. I'd like to see how much the dialogue changes when you go into the game with them remembering you from Guardia. [img]smile.gif[/img] (No spoils, please...we can still get Wiz 7 back this summer :D )

Moni, in the only Wiz7 save that I can actually import I ran from a fight on Guardia and a certain Helzoid that apparently shows up on Dominus was killed. One day I will play that team to see what happens in relation to this.

While some of the characters from Wiz7 landed on Dominus I don't really think problems from previous bad karma show up in the next game so if we are blessed with a 9, I suspect that killing the Don will not be a problem.

I have imported a couple of parties and from what I can tell, your actions on Lost Guardia have little impact on what happens here. I created one party in Wiz Gold just to import them. I didn't take them very far, just through a couple of area and kept using the room with the two vivid emblems in New City to level them up. (Yes I did keep changing classes to give them some stats.) I never took them to the ruins and never met any of the Rattkin. Yet when I met Rattus Rattus, he talked to me as if we were well known. He told me about how I did a number on them on Guardia even though I never saw any of them.

One comment that he made I found interesting. I tried to pickpocket Rattus and got caught. He said, "Hey! I ain't no Blienmeis!" I got a little kick out of that. (For those of you who have not played Wiz Gold, Blienmeis was a blind Rattkin that you needed to try to pickpocket to get through part of the game. You always got caught but he let you into the Theives Guild anyway.)

I am willing to bet that even if Jan-ette is killed on Guardia, she will be alive on Dominus just long enough to die. Poor gal. Two of my characters has crushes on her and she looked a lot better while on Guardia. We tried to get her to come with us on our ship, but the Queen wouldn't let her.

Knarfling