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dominions 05-31-2001 11:59 AM

Hi all!

I've just been given a couple of books:
Midnight Falcon by David Gemmell & Soul of the Fire by Terry Goodkin

One of my friends says that Gemmell's books are awful: EVERYONE gets killed, everything female gets violated.
Is this true? If so I won't bother with Gemmell - don't like that kind of thing.

As for Goodkin - I've read several posts on this forum and they all seem say his books are much cop.

Opinions anyone?

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jabidas 05-31-2001 04:50 PM

You think gemell is bad for being a Pervert goodkind is as bad if not worse if you read dammit cant remember the name but the book before soul of the fire you will see the most hideous mysogynist violence in a book and his prose is awful

Gemell makes the mistake of confusing gritty realism and being painfully graphic too often but some of his books are great check out ECHOS OF THE GREAT SONG which is truly excellent

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Throntar 06-01-2001 09:08 AM

I would definitely pick Goodkind over Gemmell. I personally find Gemmell rather boring...Goodkind spins a much better yarn, IMHO.

I guess I don't see where Jabidas finds Goodkind's Sword of Truth series misogynistic? Were you referring to Blood of the Fold???

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MILAMBER 06-01-2001 06:06 PM

Don't start on soul of the fire. You have to buy Wizards first rule and read them in order.

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dominions 06-02-2001 04:58 AM

I suppose what I'm asking is: are the books actually worth reading? I've got a few others to be getting on with but I'm not sure whether to just pass these two on to someone else.

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demus 06-02-2001 12:16 PM

Well, I haven't actually read Midnight Falcon, but I have read a number of other books by Gemmell (3 of the Drenai Saga, I cant find the last one, and I have also read Morningstar, for those who know anything about Gemmell's books http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ), and I found all of them very good reads and easy to get into, but, thats my opinion, and as I don't know what you are into I can't really say wheither or not you should read them. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

I don't think I have read any books by Goodkin (but I have heard of him) and his book are supposed to be very good aswell.

After all that, my advice is that you try both of the books, and if you don't like them you could always give them to me http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif (I live not too far away, near London http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif )

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dominions 06-02-2001 12:28 PM

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After all that, my advice is that you try both of the books, and if you don't like them you could always give them to me
Okey Dokey, demus! I'll do that - and if they're absolutely awful I'll send them your way http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/biglaugh.gif.

See ya

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jabidas 06-02-2001 05:11 PM

ok most of gemells stuff is dull but Echos of the great song was excellent. I read a load of the Good kind boooks because I always have to find out how the story ends and Excuse me but SPOILER

you didnt find the bit where he has all those dark sisters raped by an entire ships crew, and that other one who was under the table for god knows how many months giving him a blowjobs a little bit stupid
that and all the other scenes of rape in the books a little against women
ok how about in the newest book the scene with jagang and nicci just a litle perhaps
The 2 charecters i like in the books by the way are nicci and cara Richard and Kahalan make me want to be sick

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Mouse 06-02-2001 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by jabidas:

The 2 charecters i like in the books by the way are nicci and cara Richard and Kahalan make me want to be sick


Got to agree with this - Goodkind is kinda stodgy sometimes, but the Mord Sith are a great invention. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif





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jabidas 06-02-2001 05:58 PM

ANd he didnt rip off their outfit from that Britney spears video oh no not at all(it was just a video there was no song there was no song britney dosnt sing just a white noise ignore it)

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