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Taran 02-13-2003 05:15 PM

Hello again i know i just posted a question but i was going through the forum and i saw something
Dyneir can be in your group?? i looked all over gnoll stronghold and i couldnt find her is she there or do i have to have minsc or edwin in my group?
and what class is she and is she good?

Angelousss 02-13-2003 05:33 PM

she is in one of the pits i forget which one exactly, she's the best good mage in the game, edwin's a little better overall but is evil

SixOfSpades 02-13-2003 05:33 PM

Yes, she can be in your party. She is an Invoker, and her stats are quite good. You do not need Minsc or Edwin in your party in order to recruit her, but she and Minsc are a "pair" (just as Xzar & Montaron and Khalid & Jaheira), and if you have one they will seek to be reunited with the other (and may even get angry and turn hostile to you if you keep them separated).

She is indeed in the Gnoll Stronghold, you just can't see her. This problem is caused by the "Fog of War:" Just looking around is not enough. She's in a spot that is not very visible, and so you have to stand right next to her before you can see her.

Spoiler version: She's in one of the pits.

[ADD:] Curses! Beaten by less than a minute! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 02-13-2003, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ]

Jan 02-14-2003 02:28 AM

Ha ha year. She isn't easy to find. Man it took me ages to find her. Well I searched the caves instead of the pits "d'ohhhh".

Byrd 02-14-2003 02:33 PM

I too had problems finding Dynaheir
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Dynaheir is in the eastmost pit where the gnoll chieftain and veterans were when you first started the search. I was actually happy to go search the caves first because that was how i found the tome.

pritchke 02-14-2003 02:52 PM

Not only that, but you actually have to head down into the pit a little to see her, that is one of the reasons she is easy to miss.

SixOfSpades 02-14-2003 04:12 PM

It's a common difficulty. So common, in fact, that it's in Chapter 13 of the site in my sig.

Midget Gems 02-15-2003 02:36 AM

Ah yes, I remember ........ the first time I tried to find her I searched every inch of that map, I felt such a fool when I found she was right there all the time - just like in the intro movie for the stronghold. Oh and by the way I'm not a big fan of Invoker, they have too many restrictions, but each to his/her own choice.

Taran 02-15-2003 12:17 PM

Thanks for all your help but i got her and she kind of sucks. i took out jaheria now i have kaigan(fighter) me(ranger) brawnen(cleric)Xzar(mage)Safana(theif) and im losing dyhneir and im leaning for Edwin he seems pretty good

Pirengle 02-16-2003 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by Taran:
Thanks for all your help but i got her and she kind of sucks. i took out jaheria now i have kaigan(fighter) me(ranger) brawnen(cleric)Xzar(mage)Safana(theif) and im losing dyhneir and im leaning for Edwin he seems pretty good
You might want to wait on picking up Edwin, for two reasons:

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1: If you don't talk to Edwin at all, and come back to him later in the game, he'll have more hitpoints, and he'll have the all-important dot in missile weapons. Mages only get a d4 hitpoint roll, so on each level up, Edwin (and Xzar as well) can only get 1-4 hitpoints. (This isn't counting constitution bonus.) But there is a small bonus to picking him up early: he gets one extra 1st level and one extra 2nd level spell as a bonus ability.

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2: Edwin gets his special abilities from that amulet he wears. You know, the amulet from the special group? There's a battle in Chapter 3 that can get your party some decent mid-level gear...but if Edwin's in the party, the people will just greet him and leave. No exp, no gear. :(


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