I was wondering if anyone could give me ideas for an awesome party? I want atleast have a sorcerer(no wizards please, scrolls cost money), 2 fighters one range and one for combat, one cleric, and a rogue. The other spot is open for discussion. And on an important note, I do not DUAL CLASS! and I would like this party to remain neutral or lawful good based, so no baddies. I am also opent to losing the cobat fighter for something else, maybe a paladin. So the info I am interested in would be stats, feats, skills and race. Thanks for any help provided and so you know i have nothing against dual classing, I just rather pure class thats all. Thanks again all!

You can try here for some ideas:

http://feedback.blackisle.com/forums...threadid=66012

Here too:

http://www.nomiata.com/iwd2/IdealParty

Thanks but like I said I don't like dual classing.

Well yeah, the "ultimate party" thread does reccomend mostly dualing - but has some good discussions in it nonetheless.

The "ideal party guide" is probably better for what you want.

Yes it is good, but what I am really looking for is peoples opinions on this forum.

OK - here is what I would do for the Sorcerer. I would go with an Aasimar for the 20 starting Cha. If he's going to be the leader, then give him a 14 Int, you can max the skills concentration, spellcraft, bluff and diplomacy that way.

For feats, SF/GSF in Evocation and Necromancy (he'll be an offensive caster). After spellcraft reaches 10, take a couple of the elemental magic feats like spirit of flame, scion of storms, etc.

He would probably be the character I would give the "how to be an adventurer" book to, to get over his ECL penalty, and also since Sorcerers get spells a level after Wizards do.

For a ranged fighter, I'd go with a pure Fighter who can start with a Dex of 20, (and preferably have a high Str too for when he has to switch to melee) so an Elf or Tiefling would be my choice for race.

Skills wouldn't be too important to me; but as for feats, I'd go with WF/WS in either the longbow or crossbow, and with the sling (for piercing and blunt damage). Also dirty fighting and improved critical would be good choices.

I guess if you wanted to you could also dump all of your skill points into Alchemy now that I think about it, once it reaches an 8, you can take the envenom weapon feat which works with ranged weapons.

The only problem with crossbows is you get just one attack per round, no matter what, unless the weapon itself allows more shots. With a regular bow, you get your full number of attacks, and an extra one with rapid shot (at least until you reach 5 attacks per round). Plus, there are more types of arrows for bows then there are bolts for crossbows.

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True re: the crossbow. But the good ones do the most damage, enough to make them useful against thick skinned, damage resistant foes - and as you said there are some that grant more than one shot. Early on the sling would be the best if the character was designed with a high Str, since it adds your Str bonus to damage and allows rapid shot. And I agree, against most foes, a bow would be better than (most) crossbows for the rate of fire.

The other consideration would be RP value; do you see the ranged fighter from a RP point of view a bow or x-bow guy?

You also could take wf/ws in all three if you were a pure fighter, they have the feats to burn.