<font color=lightgreen>this guy, or armour i should say must have some play... My journal hints at my using it once. I did but i lose my character. I assume that is the price i pay. Can i ressurect her?

Another thing... should i do this with those Drowned Dead, when it gets REALLY out of hand?</font>

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You won't lose your character if you can somehow get the Demon (now WHAT was his name again?) to submit to your will. Perhaps if you knew his TRUE NAME he could be forced to serve you? Maybe a mage might have a SPELL that can Divine his name for you?

Assuming that you can get the armor so that it won't cost the life of the wearer (and it can be done), I would suggest saving for a later use. Its not worth wasting it on the Drowned Dead.

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use the spell "contact other plane" to learn the name of the deamon - atter talking to Wexing Thought - but before you try to take control of Him/it

If you have a high lvl cleric he/she can turn the Drowned Dead - if the lvl is high enough you can kill them outright

<font color=lightgreen>i don't understand. My FIghter/Cleric must be level 8 or 9 cleric, and STILL my turn undead does not work. it hasn't ever worked. it is so frustrating. Not once, from the Vale to now, have i been able to do anything to Undead creatures. What is up with that?</font>

Vaporizing the undead on Burial Isle is only likely to happen with a VERY high level cleric ... like 28th to 30th level!

In Vale of Shadows, you may occassionally *chunk* an undead. Its more likely that a normal level party will only turn some of them (so the undead will flee from your party).

<font color=lightgreen>well anyway...
i found the spell "Contact Other Plane" (finally) and did the necessary call, found out his name (similar to the name of the "crystal shard" huh?) BUT--->
i summoned him again and the same thing happened. Also, AFTER contacting the plane, i expected to identify, or just RIGHT-CLICK on the armor, and see His name but no.

One thing. i was experiencing small crashes right before and after (when saving) probably just memory malfunction, so it may not have registered yet. Q: should his name appear under the description of the armor?

Another thing. Since i was already spoiled about Emmerich being the wolf later on, when does he finally become the wolf? I am just returning from Burial Isle, now, and he is still there, and there is a lot of talk about the wolf around Lonelywood?

Thanks for the advise, help, hintssss. lata </font>

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To get the vexing thoughts armor - you need to first TALK to the demon, but don't try to command him. Just say goodbye. THEN cast the Contact other planes spell, find out his true name and THEN command him.

For Emmerich, I didn't think you actually meet the wolf until after you returned from Gloomfrost (but not 100% positive). And you won't meet the wolf-form until its night time! (DOH!) He IS a werewolf after all! lol

<font color=white>As Such the Case...

<font color=lightgreen>well, now i am stuck. I understand what you are saying Micah. Well, i had not the "contact" spell at the time i encountered Vexing. But, i did say goodbye to him during the first part of the conversation. (I presume at this time i should have casted the spell.) oh well. Now there is no return, because i have no previous saved games, and i don't want to start HOW over again.

Now i am afraid that his armour will come in great need in a not to distant battle. If you know much of this battle, will i be able to overcome it without the aid of him? Thanks</font>

I never knew anything about the "finding out of his name" thing, so I could never use Vexing Thoughts without losing a character. Therefore, I never used him. I still finished the game, so don't worry too much.

Perhaps while playing through a second time.....

The armour was useless really, I just sold it...

My Fighter/Cleric and my Paladin all kicked but on HOF mode in Burial Island..they are over level 25, they already finsihed the Icewind Dale once...no cheats, when you can, give your Cleric the Mace called Three White Doves (or something like that)..mos tof the time they will kill undead outright with one hit!