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Stockholm Syndrome 09-30-2004 10:12 AM

I just noticed that my character, a Chaotic Neutral half-elf, has changed into a Neutral Evil one. Could the Hell trials have affected my PC's alignment?...'cause he aint that bad a guy...seriously...

Moon-Child_Lman 09-30-2004 11:26 AM

I don't know, i always thought that alignment changes in BG2 are impossible. Maybe it's a bug...

Neomi 09-30-2004 11:38 AM

Nope, it's definitely possible to change your alignment due to the choices you made at the end of SOA. What's annoying is that any single "evil" choice changes your alignment to "neutral evil" if you were of a previously non-evil alignment.

It would seem to me that you could put values on each of the tasks such that if you only did one task in an "evil" manner you might not change to evil but rather to neutral. The other aspect of the alignment change is the law-chaos axis. Some of the choices could be framed as more lawful or more chaotic and therefore allow changing from Lawful Good to Chaotic Good (still a problem for a Paladin) or from Neutral Good to Chaotic Neutral, etc. It might get a little complicated but it makes more sense to me than always changing to Neutral Evil.

Ivelliis 09-30-2004 12:04 PM

I played a ranger through the game, and was curious what the cloak of nymphs done, so I accepted it and it turned me to chaotic evil, and a Fallen Ranger, not good.

Moon-Child_Lman 09-30-2004 01:14 PM

You can regain your class after you do the Ranger Stronghold.

Stockholm Syndrome 09-30-2004 02:01 PM

Well, i must say that i am guilty of some of the evil acts; Turn into the slayer for Sarevok, kill the dragon, used Blackrazor to kill the djinni, and condem my companion halfway before i chose the other path...
At least it's not a total loss. From the start of this run i had the idea in my head that my character will slowly gets corrupted by the Bhaal-taint running in his blood. Mhuwhahaha! Soon he will be death incarnate!...
But do know this, everyday, old ladies and schrubbery's alike will be violated, and entire gardens will get victimized by he, who would see our civilisation overtaken by weeds, underbrush and old men! Who is to be blamed?! Who really is the root of our society's inpending spiral into a suicidal implosion?! Why, its my PC of course!

Moon-Child_Lman 09-30-2004 03:47 PM

[img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] SOME EVIL ACTS? Those are nearly all of the Hell tests.

SixOfSpades 09-30-2004 04:22 PM

The Hell Trials (or, more specifically, the alignment changes therein) are notoriously poorly thought-out. I strongly recommend the Revised Hell Trials mod, you can find the link to it in either the FAQ thread or the other main sticky thread at the top of the SoA forum. Revised Hell Trials adds a third path (Neutral) for each of the five tests, tallies up how many Good, Neutral and Evil paths you took, and adjusts your Alignment accordingly. Even Evil characters can become Good if they took more Good paths. (The mod does not affect the Law-Chaos axis, only Good-Evil.)


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Originally posted by Moon-Child_Lman:
You can regain your class after you do the Ranger Stronghold.
How the heck is he going to do the Ranger Stronghold after Hell?

Moon-Child_Lman 10-01-2004 01:50 AM

He's gonna import his character into a new game and start the game again.

Stockholm Syndrome 10-01-2004 09:09 AM

Ehm...i don't want to spoil the moment for you two, but my character is a Bard...


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