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DarkThief7 04-19-2002 09:18 PM

I found out a nice combination that i think any class can use. Its the ring of free movement(the dungeon where bodhi sends you to find your way through the maze) and the boots of speed. You can still move fast with the boots but you'll be immune to all holding magics. Reply with other good combos.

toriuxik 04-19-2002 09:50 PM

My 40th level Monk and any ****ing dumaz monster willin' to fight. ;)

fable 04-20-2002 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by DarkThief7:
I found out a nice combination that i think any class can use. Its the ring of free movement(the dungeon where bodhi sends you to find your way through the maze) and the boots of speed. You can still move fast with the boots but you'll be immune to all holding magics. Reply with other good combos.
Not quite. ;) There is a bug in the code that permits you to wear both an item of free action and another of haste simultaneously, but they aren't supposed to work that way. If you don the free action item first then the haste one, the haste is cancelled. But if you don the haste item first then the free action one, you get both effects simultaneously. Like I said, a bug. :D

Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs 04-20-2002 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by fable:
Not quite. ;) There is a bug in the code that permits you to wear both an item of free action and another of haste simultaneously, but they aren't supposed to work that way. If you don the free action item first then the haste one, the haste is cancelled. But if you don the haste item first then the free action one, you get both effects simultaneously. Like I said, a bug. :D
Actually, if you have downloaded the Baldurdash fixes for the Boots of Speed and Grandmaster Armor, it will work, and should. The Boots of Speed specifically say that they increase the movement rate, not haste the character. The Grandmaster Armor says it acts like the Boots of Speed. So, with the patches, DarkThief7's strategy will work.

As an expansion on that, wear (in this order) the Taralash +4/+5, Amulet of Cheetah Speed, the Boots of Speed, Grandmaster Armor +6, and the Ring of Free Action. That will quadruple your movement rate, then add 16 to it, and prevent you from being held or slowed. Fun fun fun.

fable 04-20-2002 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fable:
Not quite. ;) There is a bug in the code that permits you to wear both an item of free action and another of haste simultaneously, but they aren't supposed to work that way. If you don the free action item first then the haste one, the haste is cancelled. But if you don the haste item first then the free action one, you get both effects simultaneously. Like I said, a bug. :D

Actually, if you have downloaded the Baldurdash fixes for the Boots of Speed and Grandmaster Armor, it will work, and should. The Boots of Speed specifically say that they increase the movement rate, not haste the character. The Grandmaster Armor says it acts like the Boots of Speed. So, with the patches, DarkThief7's strategy will work.</font>[/QUOTE]But...as the developers could have fixed that haste/rate problem with the ToB add-on and didn't, I'm inclined to think they really meant to use haste (so that the character was weak after using the boots for a while) rather than an increase in movement rate (which would allow a character to use the boots indefinitely without side effects--making the boots too godlike, IMO). In this case, I suspect the boots weren't bugged, and that screen text was wrong.

Legolas 04-22-2002 09:49 AM

But why then would the effect of the boots be negated when you don the ring first? That was not 'fixed' in ToB either...

Tim Tam 04-22-2002 11:45 PM

It's true the Boots of Speed increase movement rate and not haste the character. Originally the boots did haste the character as per the spell and then removed the extra attack per round. This stuffed up hasting a character in other ways while wearing the boots though so Baldurdash made it alter the movement rate as the description says.

However the description for the Ring of Free Action states that the wearer is immune to everything, magical and otherwise, that affects mobility in any way. It only includes haste and slow as examples. Increased movement rate should be negated by a Ring of Free Action, so Baldurdash got it wrong, again.

Jim 04-23-2002 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by Tim Tam:
It's true the Boots of Speed increase movement rate and not haste the character. Originally the boots did haste the character as per the spell and then removed the extra attack per round. This stuffed up hasting a character in other ways while wearing the boots though so Baldurdash made it alter the movement rate as the description says.

However the description for the Ring of Free Action states that the wearer is immune to everything, magical and otherwise, that affects mobility in any way. It only includes haste and slow as examples. Increased movement rate should be negated by a Ring of Free Action, so Baldurdash got it wrong, again.

I think Icewind Dale and BG1 has a much better description of the item:

Ring of free action: 'Edventar's Gift'
This ring was given to the reef scavenger and hunter known only as Edventar, by a group of aquatic elves long his friends. His help in routing the "Pirate Queen" of Dambrath was instrumental in their survival, though Yenandra continues to be feared anywhere the water meets land.

STATISTICS:

Special: The wearer is immune to everything, magical and otherwise, that effects mobility in any way, although can still be hasted. Be aware, however, this will also protect the wearer from beneficial effects such as those received from the boots of speed.
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So, if the ring of free action prevents anything that affects mobility in any way, and the boots of speed affect movement rate (i.e. mobility), I'd say there's a pretty good chance that the effects from the boots of speed should be cancelled.


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