Are they any good?
What are their stats + ab?
How are the fallen ones different.

The Djinni and Eferretis were TERRIBLY WEAK in BG2, are these relatively stronger?

Asking if a Planetar or Diva is good is like asking if autoshotguns are good for close combat. In other words: yes

Their stats, not sure. But they are strong, powerful, and Divas (Planetars too, maybe) can cast some handy spells.

Fallen ones? Dunno bout those. I'm a goody goody.

Hate to say this but that was the closest thing to:
"dunno but I'll answer anyway.."
No offence but I sat here for an hour waiting for an answer!
I don't have ToB yet so how am I supposed to know what they can do if you haven't any idea with the game!?
Anyway can SOMEONE ELSE give a better shot?

I'm sounding like Nazgul http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

gamebanshee didn't have any stats so InfExp will probably say something

[This message has been edited by Avatar (edited 07-16-2001).]

no offense but biteme for trying to help http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Since I'm at work, and I dont have an "appendex to help answer Avatar's question" in front of me, I gave it my best shot. I didnt see anyone else jumping in to help you.

As for devas, they can really hold their own in a fight. Relatively high hitpoints and decent movement rate. They are melee fighters mostly, same for Planetars, and both are armed with a sword as primary weapon.

devas can cast greater command, cure severe wounds, remove fear, remove curse (i think), cure disease, and blade barrier (or whatever its called).

I'm kind of short on time, so that's why I was brief. Judging from the inspecific nature of your request, I assumed you were asking if they were good to use. I told you, yes.

Thank you.

Really no offence but not very useful either.
At work and answering questions?
Anyway they sound rubbish and probably just scaled up versions of a Djinnis.

Let's say, can the party you finished in BG2 with no cheat and exp cap removed take on:

3 Planetar
3 Devas

???

That'll answer my question partially.

THANKS man I really meant no offence...but all that sarcasm with automatic gun didn't impress.

<font color="white">I am also at work, but I can tell you that the thing I like most about the Devas and Planatars (a stronger Deva, IMHO) is that you can click on them to choose whatever spell they have, and use it for the benefit of the party.
They can heal party members as well as do physical and magical damage. You can tell them what specific spell to use, or they can decide on their own. I have never used a djinni, so I don't know if they compare.

I always call on the Planatars/Devas first before any other summoned being for the fact that they stay in battle longer, and have more to offer me. They had better! A planatar is a ninth level spell summon, and I want my money's worth when I call them. So far, they have served me well.
In reference to you fallen Planatar question, I am assuming that they would have spells similar to an evil cleric, and probably turn Paladin as well. I hope to try one out soo, as Jaheira can call either one she wants.
(I wonder if a Fallen Plantar would attack party members of good alignment?)
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Sure, I don't see why not. Given the right classes in your party, you can easily wipe them out, or have the hardest time. It will only be hard if you only had melee guys and the devas cast globe of blades(a more powerful version of blade barrier).

At the risk of not being very helpful, I will post my opinion on the Planetary Avatar. I do not know the specific stats for this summons but this is the most powerful spell my 31st level solo sorcerer has. I can tell you they have multiple attacks per round (I’m guessing 3-4), a very low thaco since they hit pretty much everything on most of their attacks, and each successful hit carries a chance of immediate death (similar to the effect of the Death Spell). I have seen them kill Lichs in one strike. They are immune to most magic (although imprison is very successful against them) and are immune to most weapons. However, because they are so powerfull you can only summon one at a time. I haven’t tried this but I would imagine if you found 6 Djinnis to pit against one Planatar, the Planatar would make short work of them and come out unscathed. I have sent a Planatar up against a Lich who had summoned a Djinni and had cast similicrum. The Planatar won uninjured. IMHO this is a very powerful summons. However, if you don’t choose it now, you’ll always have a chance to do so later.

To answer your question about sending a party up against 3 Planatars and 3 Divas. IMHO, if you sent a full party, up against 2 Planatars (and they did not use imprisonment) you would have a very difficult fight and lose at least some if not all of your party.
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